New to iTunes! 4/28 agreement.

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by Fat Tony, Apr 27, 2004.

  1. Fat Tony macrumors member

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    Burn playlists up to 7 times.

    5 machines now authorized.

    Movie previews.

    Radio Charts.
     
  2. Wes macrumors 68020

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    Is this your guess or do you have some inside info?
     
  3. Fat Tony thread starter macrumors member

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    I just bought the new Beastie Boys tune and had to "agree" to the new terms before purchase. Give it a try.
     
  4. Kingsnapped macrumors 6502a

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    Holy crap... I just got it buying "Fight For your Right."

    small... freaky world.
     
  5. macguymike macrumors 6502

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    But wait there's more...

    [​IMG]

    Free single of the week! :D
     
  6. macguymike macrumors 6502

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    And you can download music videos, too... video + iTunes = video + iPod?? Hmm. ;)

    iTunes 4.5 is out, too... (Edit: Oops. Jumped the gun. I clicked a button link in iTunes that said "Update" and it downloaded 4.2 again. D'oh!)

    Included: WMA support (!!!), lossless encoder, wish list, iMix... wow. Heckuva first birthday for the iTMS.

    Heheh.. got the first raiting on Steve's iMix (#100,001)!
     
  7. bertagert macrumors 6502

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    I'm guessing the songs that we have already purchased can be burned 7 times right? This is done through 4.5 and not the DRM in the file right?

    I think the videos are only shown through the store (not on the ipod its self). Do you guys really think viewing video on an ipod would be important? I really can't imagine it being a used feature except for the coolness factor in the first month or so. Plus, the battery would just croak. I still think it's a few years away till we have batteries that could have the longevity to play video.

    Good to hear about all the new benefits though!
     
  8. macguymike macrumors 6502

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    They are only shown on the store, you are correct. Though, you can also download them now for $0.99 each, which is cool.

    I was just playfully speculating when I made that suggestion about videos on the iPod. :)
     
  9. Awimoway macrumors 65816

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    A lot of changes are going down tonight, ahead of Steve's speech, which is kind of odd. All his thunder has been stolen, but the midnight updates don't seem like an accident to me.

    See here for more info.

    iTunes 4.5 is now available for download, by the way.
     
  10. Nermal Moderator

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    But it's not really free, you still need to enter a credit card number :(
     
  11. Horrortaxi macrumors 68020

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    Good question. I've wondered this since iTMS started, but never needed to burn a playlist 10 (now 7) times to find out the answer. How does iTunes know how many times you've burned a playlist? Is it in the preferences? If you max out burning of a playlist and then delete the playlist, if you recreate it do you get another 7 burns? Or is it stored in the AAC file, so it knows which playlists it's been on? What if you rearrange the order of songs in a playlist? Does that count as a different playlist? Or if you just rename the playlist, is it a different playlist?

    Overall I'm happy with the new rules. They decreased the number of times you can burn a playlist and took away unlimited iPods, but those are issues that never effected me. The raised the number of Macs you can authorize to 5, which is a good thing for me. For the average person with 1 computer and 1 iPod they won't even know the difference.
     
  12. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

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    Makes absolutely no difference to me, as I don't use the iTMS...but I'm a 1 Mac, 1 iPod user as well...so the changes wouldn't affect me anyway, even if I was an iTMS user.
     
  13. RHutch macrumors 6502

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    Where did you read that they took away unlimited iPods? I have read about this story in several places today, and I am sure that I read that you can still put your purchased music on an unlimited number of iPods.
     
  14. Horrortaxi macrumors 68020

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    I think it was in the 4.5 EULA.
     
  15. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    You must have read it wrong. You can still put iTMS music on an unlimited number of iPods.
     
  16. Don't panic macrumors 603

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    you can burn up to 7 CONSECUTIVE and IDENTICAL playlists.
    any change will re-zero the count.

    I relly think that in practical term it's an irrelevant change.
    However, in principle, they changed an agreement and it sets a precedent. if they can do that any time they want, that's not good, because ay one point they might decide to change it to a much more restrictive DRM. basically it's not true that you purchased the music. It's more like a license.
     
  17. Makosuke macrumors 603

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    That may be correct, but at least somewhere was reporting that simply rearranging the playlist will NOT allow you to re-burn it. Minor annoyance, since most people really don't have much reason to burn more than 7 identical CDs unless they're giving away copies to everybody they know--one each for a couple of cars, one for your bookbag, one for home, and a couple to replace the ones that you loose, and you've still got one left over. Can always re-rip and re-burn or just do a direct copy of the CD if it matters that much, anyway.

    I mostly agree, but this is only partly true; if you don't upgrade to version 4.5 of iTunes, you are not subject to the new restrictions. So although it is indeed a licence, it's connected to the player software, not the music. Subtle difference, but it is important to a degree. And again, once you've burned a CD, that is your legit piece of music on the CD, free of any added-after-the-fact restrictions.

    Incidentally, they must've done something to the music sharing protocol, because on my University network, all of the shared libraries show up, but the people who haven't yet upgraded to 4.5 show up as greyed when you update yourself (you also get a "not compatible with this version of iTunes" error if you try to view one).
     

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