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  1. slooksterPSV macrumors 68030

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    Hey I just tried using PearPC last night, just for fun and that. I actually got it to work, the bad thing is, it ran everything so slow. It is possible to run PearPC, if you guys want pictures of it, when I get home today I'll post them. Its, not good though, it runs so slow, and uses up so much RAM, I do not recommend it. The CherryOS though, I'd like to try that out and see how it works out. Anyone else tried PearPC?
     
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    How fast is your computer? I tried PearPC on a friend's 1 GHz Athlon, and it took 7 bounces to open Terminal! :eek:

    Installation probably took a while too - it took about 10-15 minutes to 'get it started,' then we went out and got fish and chips (it was 3 am so we had to wait about 20 minutes for them). Mmm, fish and chips... sorry, I'm getting distracted and the ice cream man has just pulled up outside my house :D

    Edit: He took off before I could get out there :(
     
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    A 2.5GHz Celeron and I tried it on a 1100MHz AMD Duron. It ran 'reasonably' for an x86 processor. Now if I had an AMD 64-FX-53 that would be fast, as long as it had 1GB of RAM. It uses a lot of RAM. I should setup a whole hard drive just for Panther if I get an AMD Fx-53 computer. I never got the OS installed, but I ripped it using ISObuster. Try it. Oh BTW want screens? I'll post them here in a min.
     
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    Well since an FX-53 almost costs more than a Mac ($1640 here in NZ), wouldn't it make more sense to just get a Mac? :p
     
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    Exactly! Except, I would like an AMD Fx-53 PC, just because AMD is my favorite x86 processor in the world.
     
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    I'd like to see a screen grab of the "About This Mac" information. How does it display the clockspeed of the processor? Is the number in the emulated OS X different than the actual clock of the x86 processor?
     
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    It makes a guesstimate of the 'equivalent' speed.
     
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    me too... post a "About this mac" pic, what would be the main reason to install PearPC apart of *fun*? :confused:
     
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    I'll get one here after school today, it shows 0 MHz btw.
     
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    thanks slooksterPSV. it'll be comedy to see it. maybe someone out there has a 1MHz PearPC "Mac" that'd blow the doors off that 0MHz system.
     
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    The install says it has 40 min. left, but I estimate to about 30 min. It said it still had 21 hours and that was 1 hour ago.
     
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    OK BTW this machien is an Intel Celeron 2.5 GHz, and it has 640MB DDR266 RAM. Now read what it says about the mac from this pic. It runs so frikken slow.


    [EDIT]By the way it says that its a 57MHz bus speed and it has 0KB L2 Cache
     
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    I'd forgotten how stripy Jaguar was! Horizontal lines everywhere! :eek: :p
     
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    thanks slooksterPSV! that screen capture was entertaining. I wonder if any AMD people out there would care to share.
     
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    If you're lucky - very lucky - I'll be able to try it on my brother's Athlon 2600.
     
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    Well, it didn't happen. But I *might* be getting an Athlon 64 3500+ next week, so if I do, I'll give PearPC a go :)
     
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    Don't forget, the Trial of CherryOS comes out on November 25. It promises to run Mac OS X at speeds of 95%.
     
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    And also sports a great deal of PearPC's code. From what I've seen/heard, CherryOS is a big joke. I guess we'll see on the 25th...
     
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    Ha! I was thinking the same thing! My eyes, horror! :eek: :D
     
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    Screen Shot of AMD 64 running pearpc

    My friend put pearpc on his amd 64 pc running at 2 ghz with a gig of ram. Here are some pics and some xbench bench mark scores(the graphical test made it crash so he ran xbench with that turned off.) oh ya here is the xbench scores:

    Results 2.61
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.1.3
    System Version 10.3 (7B85)
    Physical RAM 512 MB
    Model PowerPC (PearPC 0.4pre)
    Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.06 GHz
    L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
    Bus Frequency 58 MHz
    Video Card PearPC,display
    Drive Type EIN GEBUESCH!
    CPU Test 0.56
    GCD Loop 35.42 1.38 Mops/sec
    Floating Point Basic 2.30 8.33 Mflop/sec
    vecLib FFT 0.15 2.34 Mflop/sec
    Floating Point Library 24.77 991.63 Kops/sec
    Thread Test 23.79
    Computation 42.03 567.43 Kops/sec, 4 threads
    Lock Contention 16.59 208.29 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test 47.53
    System 50.34
    Allocate 67.26 43.87 Kalloc/sec
    Fill 47.12 375.10 MB/sec
    Copy 42.53 212.67 MB/sec
    Stream 45.02
    Copy 46.92 342.99 MB/sec
    Scale 38.15 281.54 MB/sec
    Add 48.18 308.35 MB/sec
    Triad 48.64 297.17 MB/sec
    User Interface Test 21.46
    Elements 21.46 6.90 refresh/sec
    Disk Test 63.52
    Sequential 38.54
    Uncached Write 19.70 8.21 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 85.84 35.15 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 27.81 4.40 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 184.34 74.48 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 180.60
    Uncached Write 184.44 2.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 84.04 18.95 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 489.04 3.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 359.37 73.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     

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    Apart from benchmarks, how did it run in practice? Did the mouse move smoothly? Did Safari open in less than 5 bounces? Basically, does it 'feel' like you're using a real G3 Mac?
     
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    well.........

    Well it was my friend who did it and I havn't ahd a chance to try it on his machine in person but I beleave he said that to him it felt like it ran fine and he even talked to me via ichat on it. Also pearpc dosn't support audio so I dont know if that makes a difference. also he was using I think 0.4 version of pearpc wich according to the site is only 40 time slower then the host machine. Were as the the first couple versions of pearpc was 400 times slower then the host machine. Ill see if I can get more out of him tomorow, he is not the talkative type. Nor dose he use macs that much so hes not the most experienced as to how a mac should "feel" when using them. ;)
     

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