oakland raiders, NE patriots, what the heck is going on?

Discussion in 'Community' started by jefhatfield, Oct 29, 2002.

  1. jefhatfield Retired

    jefhatfield

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2000
    #1
    these two great nfl teams, who i thought at the end of the season last year would go to this years playoffs, are losing it big time right now

    what is happening with this football season?

    it kind of reminds me of a baseball team that finished 41 games out of first place last year but just won the world series

    no one can call sports boring or predictable in the last couple of years

    ...'cept for maybe basketball...kobe, shaq?...you guys need to be on different teams!!!
     
  2. diorio macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2002
    #2
    I don't know, the AFC west is kind of weird right now, I believe the Chargers are leading? The Broncos are hanging on and I think they have a good playoff shot.
     
  3. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

    jefhatfield

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2000
    #3
    imagine the broncos a superbowl contender without john elway

    that would be cool

    i used to hate the broncos, but elway just kept on plugging away and that made a lot of people come around

    those angels, in baseball, had their hearts broken more than any team in baseball history and blew so many chances and had the players like carew, jackson, ryan, and others

    no other team i could think of spent their first 41 years not yet in a second round of the playoffs or world series...amazingly bad luck so this world series win must have meant a real monkey off their back

    but, they have a monkey on their back and this time, at least, it was their good luck charm

    a rally monkey...it's time has come:p
     
  4. diorio macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2002
    #4
    I'm glad the Angels won, they had the great players but could never capitalize. It would be kind of weird with Brian Greise as QB instead of Elway, but it would still be good. Remember, the Broncos are 2 for 5 in the superbowl, and I think Elway lost two.
     
  5. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

    jefhatfield

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2000
    #5
    elway is 2 for 5 alone

    but the broncos are 2 for 6 overall but the public will most remember the last two they did which were wins
     
  6. cubist macrumors 68020

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2002
    Location:
    Muncie, Indiana
    #6
    I'd like to see the Bills win a SB.

    I don't think it'll happen this year. But this definitely is a weird season. Last week there were like 3 OT games. I think the reshuffling of the divisions has caused some weird effects. The Saints have really come to life, eh?

    Actually with 2 more divisions I think they ought to reduce the number of wildcards from 6 to 4. As it is, 14 out of 32 teams make playoffs... that's weird.
     
  7. g3ski macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    #7
    Raiders on PCs

    The Raiders bought all new PCs from Dell, that's why they are so bad this year

    :D
     
  8. wdlove macrumors P6

    wdlove

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    #8
    The Patriot's definitely need help, per sportscasters, doing everything wrong!:confused:
     
  9. Over Achiever macrumors 68000

    Over Achiever

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Location:
    Toledo, OH, formerly Twin Cities, MN
    #9
    NFC North

    You want to know whats weird? The NFC North...my Minnesota Vikings are in second place...with a 2-5 RECORD...same with the Bears and Lions...2-5 is good enough for a three way tie for second!

    My goodness...
     
  10. g3ski macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    #10
    2nd place is meaningless....

    2nd place means even less than it used to, now that there are four division. There will be four division winners and three wildcards from each Conference. Yeah 14 teams make the playoffs, 7 out of 16 from each conference, but it is still very unlikely that a sub .500 will make it. All playoff teams will be over .500!

    I still have to agree, it's a wild season.....but aren't they all. I guess the last time that we were in agreement with who was going to be good was in the early to mid 90's when the Cowboys and Niners dominated. Or maybe when we could predict that the NFC would beat the AFC in the superbowl.

    Oddly enough, right now things are shaping up for a Niners vs. Chargers rematch, with the chargers looking solid and the Niners looking like the cinderella team. It would have been a great year to put $100 on the chargers in Vegas, they are probably 25-1 odds (that would be a nice new dual 1Ghz G4 or a 23" flat screen) :D

    I still have my money on Philly in the super bowl. :cool:
     
  11. sickboy_osX macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Location:
    Pocatello, Idaho
    #11
    Sickboy's Superbowl Picks (dont laugh)

    San Fransisco 49ers (27)
    vs.
    Miami Dolphins (30)

    Superbowl XXXVII January 26th 2003
    San Diego California....

    1:00 left in the game....

    And the ball is at the Miami 50
    Fiedler Passes to Ricky Williams, hes running, hes at the 30, the 20, the 10 TOUCH DOWN Miami and Miami Wins Superbowl 37 in San Diego first time since 1974!!! If only Marino was here right now to see this!

    Thats how i think it will play out..

    (these are the opinion of sickboy, depending on how ray lucas throws until fiedller can get back into the game)
     
  12. blackpeter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2001
    #12
    The Broncos are doing so well because of the addition of my boy, Clinton Portis. He's going to be next year's Ladianian Tomlinson!

    Major Contenders so far:
    -Chargers
    -Broncos
    -Saints
    -Niners
    -'Phins (as long as Fiedler makes it back soon)
    -Eagles
    -Bills
    -Packers
    -Cheifs

    This is what's great about the NFL. The salary cap maintains parity in the league. Every game is important (unlike basketball and baseball). I love this game!

    Any MacRumors folks play Fantasy Football like myself?
     
  13. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

    jefhatfield

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2000
    #13
    Re: 2nd place is meaningless....

    nope, between the raider's january 84 superbowl until the late-90s, the nfc on every superbowl

    for a long time, it was as if the nfc were the pro players and the afc some "minor" league...it was an awful time in football

    now, things are up in the air and much more exciting than those predictable years of the nfc dominance
     
  14. sickboy_osX macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Location:
    Pocatello, Idaho
    #14
    I think the Fins have a better chance because we have Chris Carter, Ricky Williams and Fiedler, I just hope Jay comes back soon because That other dude keeps throwing like shiz. and it pisses me off, and makes me get more drunk at the bar, which pisses the lady of the house off because I am piss drunk, reak of alcohol, and I cant do anything the rest of the night.
     
  15. Over Achiever macrumors 68000

    Over Achiever

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Location:
    Toledo, OH, formerly Twin Cities, MN
    #15
    Cris Carters a traitor:mad:

    (this coming from a long time Viking fan;))
     
  16. 3777 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2002
    #16
    The Patriots were never a great team....... they were a one year wonder. I hate the Patriots, I'm a huge Miami Dolphins fan living in New England..... I go too Miami / New England game at foxborough / Gillette ever year........they always throw beer at me :mad:

    P.S. The Raiders were never great, they just had a great coach........ now that Grudens gone they will fall apart.

    P.P.S. Speaking of falling apart....... I am sort of glad Dolphins fans are getting a good dose of Gay Lucas, maybe now they will appreciate Jay Fiedler for the great quarterback that he is:eek:
     
  17. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

    jefhatfield

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2000
    #17
    i live in a tiny california city, pop four thousand, and john madden lives there and i see him all the time...now when he was coach, the raiders posted a .750 winning percentage

    that went down with every coach since then until you have what the raiders are today and have been for the last few years...has beens which if they were in their prime, would be contenders

    i hate to see the raiders blow it in the playoffs of just flat out miss the playoffs...the last time they were in a superbowl was in the 1983 season before some of you were born and before many of you were old enough to know what football was

    forget about passing and the west coast offense...forget about finesse...in those days of football from vince lombardi thru the vicious chicago bears of '85, football was a black and blue sport of ball control in time of possession and running it like a bulldozer through devastating defenses

    when i think of football, i think of larry czonka, the colts winning the superbowl, ronny lott, lawrence taylor, the steel curtain, the black and blue division, etc...

    now that was real football...usually on grass and not often in some temperature controlled indoor stadium with artificial turf

    give me a low scoring defensive superbowl determined by a field goal and many sacks on both sides and then i will be happy...real football, third down conversions with a running back built by a tank, and time of possession and eating up the clock as the team marches down the field with ripped uniforms and turf being ground up by face masks

    in other words, football
     
  18. wdlove macrumors P6

    wdlove

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    #18
    It will be interesting this week with the Patriots going up against their former team mate Drew Beldsoe. This is a good season so far for him. Should be sorry that they traded him! :)
     
  19. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

    jefhatfield

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2000
    #19
    drew is in for a playoff run as starting quarterback and an early favorite for a ring and superbowl mvp

    fox sports call him the best quarterback in football today
     
  20. wdlove macrumors P6

    wdlove

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    #20
    New England Patriots won today 31 -7 against Drew Bledsoe in Buffalo! Would have like to see Drew win after the way the Patriots treated him last year.
     

Share This Page