Oh, how apple lies

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  1. I'mAMac macrumors 6502a

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    Quote from Apple store: "The NVIDIA 7300 GT that comes standard in your 24-inch iMac provides amazing performance for most graphics tasks and games." Now the 7300gt that comes with the 24inch is 128mb and mediocre at best. Do they think that everyone looking at their site has no idea what a computer is? I like apple but come on!
     
  2. Warbrain macrumors 603

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    It says for most graphics and games. It's not the best thing in the world, but for the people who are buying iMacs, it's enough. The iMac is a consumer machine, not a pro machine.
     
  3. stevehp macrumors 6502

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    I understand where you're coming from, but a VAST majority of people have no idea what a video card is in the first place let alone 128mb NVIDIA 7300 GT - that's just gibberish to them...
     
  4. kettle macrumors 65816

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    I'm still amazed by the difference in performance from when I upgraded my 16MB RagePro to a 64MB Radeon 8500.

    I'm guessing that you are not easily amazed and perhaps even worse, you are only impressed by whatever the one 'I AM' greatest thing today is, everything else being a trivial annoyance.

    Kinda leaves no space for the hopes of lesser dreams. I hope that one day you will find happiness.

    I like you but come on.
     
  5. Demon Hunter macrumors 68020

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    Mediocre? It's not that bad. It plays World of Warcraft like butter. :)
     
  6. liketom macrumors 601

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    if i had a 24" i'd be playing with it all the time :D

    o yeah the graphics are ok but what do i know :rolleyes:
     
  7. I'mAMac thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I'm very happy with my x1600 in my iMac. I dont need the greatest thing out there. All im pointing out is that apple is saying that the standard gfx card in the 24" iMac is "amazing" which it isn't. As another post mentioned above, most people don't even know what a graphics card is so by saying that it is amazing, you are misleading people.
     
  8. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    No, because, to those people, it will be amazing.

    Besides which, who believes advertising hyperbole anymore? Factual items in ads should be, well, factual, but adjectives and adverbs? We all know they're exaggerations.
     
  9. I'mAMac thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Though in macs graphics cards are always better than they are in PC's.
     
  10. kettle macrumors 65816

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    No, it's amazing. Your problem happens to be that you don't think it is. If everyone you asked said it was amazing you might just be convinced, but I doubt it.

    Perhaps you have become desensitised to the joys of amazement.

    ..here are some relatively common things you should be amazed by...

    Electricity.
    Sanitation.
    Medicine.

    How you find it so easy to remain sheltered, clothed, fed and watered without it taking up more than the bare minimum of your precious free time.

    Perhaps if you re-calibrated your outlook.

    Try saying out loud - "The 24" iMac has mediocre graphics."

    Now that would be misleading.
     
  11. MAcNIAC macrumors regular

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    i agree with you - though i doubt you'll get much support here.
    how dare you speak poorly of our beloved?

    they should be upfront... "the 7300GT has great performance for non 3D tasks and offers acceptable performance for an introduction to 3D gaming", for ground breaking 3D performance upgrade to ....

    BTW - apple seems to have removed any reference to the GMA950 being able to play the "latest games"!?! now THAT was BS.
     
  12. bearbo macrumors 68000

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    eh no... apple tend to underclock graphic cards to reduce heat and noise

    and what's with people feeling the NEED to put down PC?

    because new games came out that that card doesn't support anymore, therefore it's BS? either you have problem with being logical, or expressing your logic
     
  13. MAcNIAC macrumors regular

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    by that logic apple could sell refurbished apple ][e's - and call them amazing!

    Apple's venerable ][e with it's 1.00Mhz processor; 16 Kb of ROM ; 64 Kb of RAM; and Display@ 280x192 will AMAZE you with games like "asteroids", "pacman", "karataka" and "conan".:D

    because new games came out that that card doesn't support anymore, therefore it's BS? either you have problem with being logical, or expressing your logic[/QUOTE]

    um ... no, i just dont have my rose colored glasses on. those "new" games that came out, came out about 2years before the macbooks / intel mini's.
     
  14. Sayer macrumors 6502a

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    You can upgrade to the 7600 GT w/256 RAM for $125. If you can afford the 24" iMac, another $125 won't kill you to get a bump in graphics performance, if you thought you'd really need it.

    BTW: you failed to prove why Apple is "lying" about the specs. If anything, that comment is more egregious than any marketing Apple is putting out about the iMac.
     
  15. MAcNIAC macrumors regular

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    exactly - and that's why it's important apple doesnt overstate the capability of the 7300GT. There could be lots of angry owners (who would have happily spent the extra $125) when they find out how "unAMAZING" their very expensive 24" iMac is at 3D games.
     
  16. Scarlet Fever macrumors 68040

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    a majority of the buyers of the 24" iMac aren't looking for the best gaming platform on the face of the planet. Gamers would have either the Mac Pro because of its PCIe expandability, or a PC because its cheaper than the Mac Pro and can run more GPUs.

    I'm not a hardcore gamer myself, but i can cope with the quality at which my MacBook plays Halo. I'm sure a 24" iMac would look "amazing" to me.

    and besides, its all just advertising anyway. Apple aren't about to say "look this GPU is honestly a turd of a card", are they. It's a GPU capable or running a lot of todays games at good quality.
     
  17. bearbo macrumors 68000

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    why don't you list out the titles in question? because you cannot
     
  18. MAcNIAC macrumors regular

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    what?
     
  19. MAcNIAC macrumors regular

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    why dont you address the topic rather than my html skills?

    i'm done with this. time to go play with my G2 shuffle and check when my MBP C2D is shipping. bye
     
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    Me too! Lets face it Apple has a long history of spinning Video cards. Long history indeed. The 7300Gt is a good little card but when you start having to push 24 inches of display you better be spinning lots of yarn. Hence Apple's little spin phrases. Be glad they didnt use a GMA 950 $4 graphics chip. Be glad they offer a 7600Gt.
     
  22. Nym macrumors 6502a

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    I don't agree, the fact is that this forum is as misleading as Apple.
    I'll explain:

    When I began thinking about buying a 24 Incher I started researching for user opinions about it. From reading some threads here about the 7300GT, the feedback that guys like you gave me always made me think that such GPU was a big piece of crap. I couldn't afford the upgrade to the 7600GT so I didn't.
    When I bought the 24" iMac base model I was thinking (taking into consideration what I'd read at some posts here) that I wouldn't be able to play Counter Strike:Source at a decent frame rate (1024x768) in max settings and was really worried. However, when I loaded Windows, installed some games (HL2, CS:S, DOD:S, SWAT4, FEAR, BF2) I realized that I was completely wrong about the power of the graphics card I had inside, I was not only able to run CS:S at 1280x1024 (which is enough by me) on max settings, I was also able to run F.E.A.R (which is a real pusher on the hardware) at 1024x768, max settings, completely fluid!! So as all the other games I'd installed ;)

    So, when you say that Apple lies, it's probably true, all companies lie, it's called marketing, yet, you should remember that not everyone makes it a pre-requisite to run their games at native resolution, I play in 1280x1024 or 1024x768 and it looks beautiful to me, if Apple exaggerates in what it can do, you are doing the same in reverse, putting it down lower than it really is.

    Just one more question, do you actually own a 24" iMac with the 7300GT? :eek:

    PS - I'm not bashing you in any way, just defending what's mine and giving my opinion :)
     
  23. MacBoobsPro macrumors 603

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    I think the OP needs to remember that most new iMac purchases are going to be made by people upgrading from older machines most likely with only 32mb or even 16mb VRAM. Going from 32MB to 128MB will be quite a good experience. Possibly even amazing to a point.

    Volumetric smoke and dynamic lighting anyone?

    When I went from 128VRAM to 256VRAM even that was quite an experience. I was already using max setting on most things so no new visual experiences were born with 256 but it did scroll more like butter.
     
  24. Markleshark macrumors 603

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    Ridiculous thread.

    What do you expect Apple Marketing to say 'Yeah, we lashed this 128meg graphics card thingy in, it does the job, not the best, but hey. What you gonna do?' I doubt it. Its far from a bad graphics card, so as far as most people go it will do just fine.

    Anyway, as far as im concerned the Apple II was amazing. The Mac Pro is Amazing. The iMac is what? 3 or 4 inches thin, THAT IS amazing, so surely anything that goes in there is amazing too.

    :rolleyes:
     
  25. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    its not a built to order gaming machine. its somewhat higher end consumer model. simple as that.
    its a good card. its not the latest and greatest, but then again if it was, people would be complaining about the price being that much higher too.
    its all about what fits in where and how the prices end up matching up.
     

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