Orange County, CA sues Toyota

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    leomac08

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    The O.C is planning a lawsuit against Toyota for the accelerator problems with many of the cars. I am quite concerned because I drive a 2007 Toyota Matrix and 2004 Toyota Highlander and just recently a man's Toyota Prius in San Diego, CA experienced sudden acceleration and it wasn't on the Toyota Recall List.:eek:

    This is the first lawsuit other than NTSA that is planning to sue Toyota.

    http://cbs2.com/local/Toyota.Orange.County.2.1556956.html
     
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    quagmire

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    They deserve what ever they get due to them trying to hide this defect(and still are by not recalling all effected vehicles).
     
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    IMHO, guy is a liar. His background: Bankrupt real estate salesman. Owes $700,000 in debt and $70,000 on credit cards. Is 5 months behind on Prius car payments. Has filed false charges previously.

    The incident: REFUSED to shift into neutral even though instructed to several times. Drove 90+ MPH for over 20 minutes through traffic? :rolleyes: Still somehow managed to talk on the phone with 911 during that time, drop his phone twice, and tried to lift up the accelator with his hands? :rolleyes: Go into your parked car and see if you can reach the accelerator without taking your eyes off the windshield. Now imagine trying to do that while driving 90+ MPH through traffic. And oh yeah, his model Prius happens to have a brake override feature. :rolleyes: I guess he didn't research his hoax enough.

    Edmunds calls it BS:

    http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/03/was-this-prius-really-out-of-control.html

    Forbes calls it a hoax:

    http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/12/toyota-autos-hoax-media-opinions-contributors-michael-fumento.html

    His former business partner calls him a scammer:

    http://jalopnik.com/5492199/exclusive-ex+business-partner-claims-runaway-prius-driver-a-scammer
     
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    Agreed. Toyota needs to step up and say the truth. 52 people have been rumored to have died to this reason.

    WOW! I really didn't see that coming.:eek::eek:

    Little has been discussed about the San Diego's man Toyota Acceleration Hoax here in LA.

    I can really see people take advantage of this situation.

    I just heard in the news about a man who was sentenced to jail for running-over 3 people and killing them. Now people are forgiving the guy for his crime because they think that the 1996 Camry had an acceleration problem defect.:rolleyes: Who knows? Might be true or not?


    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1fa877/1720
     
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    It's cheap populist politics at the end of the day. They wouldn't dare touch it with an American manufacturer.
     
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    quagmire

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    Oh please. Bush back in 2006 saying the Big 3 didn't make vehicles the public wanted and said he wouldn't help them( though he eventually did back in 2008, but according to Cheney I believe he did it so it would be one less thing he would be responsible for).

    The Big 3 have been under the scrutiny of our government plenty of times. Most recent is back in 2008 when Congress grilled them when the CEO's went to ask for a loan. Even when our government took a 60% ownership of GM, they didn't hesitate to criticize its mismanagement. They stated GM's handling of its finances were the worst they have ever seen.
     
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    Scrutiny is not as serious as an actual prosecution though, which is on the cards here. Why is a state prosecution appropriate in this case? Aren't class actions the usual procedure in this case? I'm asking sincerely, by the way, it's a subject that has often confused me.
     
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    This whole thing is complete bollox. Nothing but a bunch of incompetent and/or half asleep drivers stepping on the wrong pedal. "The harder I pressed on the brake, the faster it went"? That's because you were pressing on the accelerator, you twat. I've seen it happen a couple of times myself. Toyota will be ruined by this, for no good reason at all.
     
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    Because Toyota has potentially( with more evidence saying they did) hid this defect from the government( which they are legally obligated to).
     
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    What evidence?
     
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    When you say potentially, do you mean they're launching the case without having evidence that Toyota attempted to conceal the alleged failures?
     
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    It is hardly credible that Toyota would have 6,000 incriminating documents lying around to be stolen. Link?
     
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    Added links to above post.
     
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    He's going to have fun defending the integrity of his evidence in court.
     
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    Thanks. On the face of it, that does look extremely serious for Toyota, an astounding case of hubris. I still suspect the throttle/brake problems are probably more to do with driver error than anything else.
     
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    Why the hell does that guy still have a license?
     
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    Car won't stop....

    TURN CAR OFF?

    /facepalm.


    I don't care if your on the highway, turn it off, hit your emergency lights
    and pull over. To the left side if you had to.
     
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    That's the problem with any vehicle with "push-button" start; there's an interlock that prevents shutoff if the car's in gear and/or motion. It's Neutral or nothing in those. It's not a Toyota issue, it affects every make that uses the stupid thing. Even if it has a fob to be inserted first, removal of the fob does nothing.
     
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    The reason is that American drivers are undereducated when it comes to the operation and indeed purpose of their vehicle. The government licenses as many people as possible without verifying that those people will be competent in operating a piece of heavy machinery in close proximity to other people in order to funnel as much money as possible out of the hands of private citizens and into big government and big business. All the while excusing the fact that their cash cow is also by far the largest cause of accidental deaths per year simply in the name of convenience and laziness, ignoring the problem entirely except to dump blame every so often on a single entity so as to excuse the entire system of their greed and manipulation. Therefore, if you think that our society being based on automobile transportation is a positive thing, there would have been a good reason for Toyota's ruin.
     
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    I am the first person to say Americans are idiots when it comes to driving, but it doesn't mean this defect doesn't exist.

    Anyway, for some laughs.


    http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/02/the-complaints-nhtsa-doesnt-want-you-to-see.html
     
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    Amen to that! Think there will lots of worms out there that will try to profit off any problems that Toyota has going...

    What has happened to Driver Ed over the years? I was trained in what to do when the breaks fail or the engine races...

    Years ago I was going down a steep hill when my breaks gave out.. sounds like a setup - but it was not....

    For this guy.. two or three calls to 911... and he was "afraid" of putting the car in neutral? Give me a break!

    Reminds me of a lawsuit that Toyota lost here in Virginia. The guy lost his legs and won over the fact that seat-belts don't work if the seat is fully reclined! Go figure!
     

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