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Happy-Mac

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Dec 12, 2012
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I am not against a flat design, but I feel like it should come with better performance.

For example, the OS could take up less space and/or be able to render things faster if it does not have to constantly redraw big 3D icons, but instead simple flat icons.

Although, I presume the perceivable difference between flat and more complex 3D icons would be minimal at best even if everything was optimized to use smaller file sizes.
 

gentlefury

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Jul 21, 2011
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Actually, software versioning doesn't work like that (up to the developer really). 10.100 != 10.10.

Well, it's been OSX for about 13 years now. Why are they stuck on that version? I've NEVER heard of a single version with only point releases for 13 years. Do they ever plan to move forward? I assumed this was finally the year. I still doubt they would go 10.10...that's just dumb. In numerical terms 10.10 = 10.1
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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People should realize that this 'flat design' is a trend, not an evolution.... and trends are bad to follow for operating systems...
Bingo. If only more people really understood that.
 

gentlefury

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Jul 21, 2011
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I am not against a flat design, but I feel like it should come with better performance.

For example, the OS could take up less space and/or be able to render things faster if it does not have to constantly redraw big 3D icons, but instead simple flat icons.

Although, I presume the perceivable difference between flat and more complex 3D icons would be minimal at best even if everything was optimized to use smaller file sizes.

Well, a big advantage of this design could very well be all vector graphics. Which would mean a MUCH smaller install and graphics that could scale infinitely without resolution degradation. And also, no need for high res icons that take of room and bandwidth.
 

Ungibbed

macrumors 6502a
Dec 13, 2010
765
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USA
welcome to Mac OS 9! I'm happy with the desktop OS the way it was with Snow Leopard. Fast, still had Front Row which I used plenty of times with my 27" ACD and MacBook Pro.

Even now with Mavericks, the Mac OS look and feel I am very happy with. I don't want a Windows 8 cloned OS let alone more mobile centric features that should remain where they are. On my iPhone, iPad, or even my Galaxy Tab 3 7.0

As I fear the traditional desktop computing era as it's been for decades is fading away to nothing. Steve Jobs will rise and haunt Apple if such a thing happens and the Mac fades away to tablet computing.
 

bushido

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Mar 26, 2008
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Is it me or is continuing to have the "music" and "movies" folder pointless on OS X? I'm citing the fact that iTunes commandeer's the music and movies into it's own folder within the "Music" folder.

I'd like to see a iTunes folder already built it.

the movies folder is also used by iMovie. i agree about the music folder however, its weird having the apps and everything related to itunes to be stored in there
 

parish

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Apr 14, 2009
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I still doubt they would go 10.10...that's just dumb. In numerical terms 10.10 = 10.1

Why don't people get this? The dot in software version numbers is not a decimal point, it's just a separator - could just as easily been a ':' or '-', etc. - so the bit after the '.' is not a decimal fraction.

If it was a decimal point, how could you have 10.9.2? or 32.0.1700.107 (the current version of Chrome on OS X)?
 

Dannyking

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Feb 11, 2012
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Wiltshire, UK
Not for me. Looks far too Google/Android for me. I'm also not feeling the 'flat' thing. OSX has a nice simplistic, modern and simple feel. I appreciate that Apple are innovators but i fear they are trying to reinvent the wheel a little. (still better than (Window 8 though)
 

troop231

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Jan 20, 2010
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Well, it's been OSX for about 13 years now. Why are they stuck on that version? I've NEVER heard of a single version with only point releases for 13 years. Do they ever plan to move forward? I assumed this was finally the year. I still doubt they would go 10.10...that's just dumb. In numerical terms 10.10 = 10.1

I actually agree with you.
 

pubwvj

macrumors 68000
Oct 1, 2004
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I wish they would stop messing with the interface. It works fine. Time for Apple to get their heads back under the hood and fix the engine. We need:

1) Legacy support so all older Macintosh applications that ran under previous versions of the Mac OS will run again. We have legacy data locked to old hardware because Apple broke compatibility. There is a tremendous amount of older software that has never been reworked for OSX, especially for small business and in the educational field. Just use wrappers.

2) Cross compatibility so DOS, Windows, CPM, etc can run on the Mac without the nonsense of BootCamp. Again, use wrappers.

3) iOS Apps to work on the Mac. It's absurd that they don't. Use wrappers if you gotta.

4) Stability.

5) Protection from nasties. (NSA, Terrorists, Viruses, Trojans, etc - use condoms)

6) Speed

7) Smaller footprint - hey, I can dream.
 

umbilical

macrumors 65816
May 3, 2008
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FL, USA
ugly as ****ing damn hell... looks like a ms office, yes yes I understand what flat is and how is possible add to OS X but why need looks like microsoft stuff? so bad.
 

LukasValine

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Nov 5, 2013
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I'll bet apple moves to OS 11 when the iOS version number catches up. Then they will release Mac OS 11, and iOS 11 at the same time.
 

cmChimera

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Feb 12, 2010
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Who's to say it won't be OS 11?
They are probably never going to have OS 11. Why? Because OS X is a brand now.

Well, it's been OSX for about 13 years now. Why are they stuck on that version? I've NEVER heard of a single version with only point releases for 13 years. Do they ever plan to move forward? I assumed this was finally the year. I still doubt they would go 10.10...that's just dumb. In numerical terms 10.10 = 10.1
Why go to 11 just for hell of it? The version number is irrelevant.

Also, as already stated multiple times, software versioning doesn't work mathematically. 10.10 is not the same is 10.1.
 

H.Finch

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Jun 9, 2013
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He is all iEgo. I don't think he cares.

Ive has kinda earned his ego... though it'll be his achilles' heel someday. In idustrial design he's trend setting. In software, Apple is trend-following... if you're following... youre always one step to late to the party... and it'll cost them one day I think. (sadly)
 

gentlefury

macrumors 68030
Jul 21, 2011
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I wish they would stop messing with the interface. It works fine. Time for Apple to get their heads back under the hood and fix the engine. We need:

1) Legacy support so all older Macintosh applications that ran under previous versions of the Mac OS will run again. We have legacy data locked to old hardware because Apple broke compatibility. There is a tremendous amount of older software that has never been reworked for OSX, especially for small business and in the educational field. Just use wrappers.

2) Cross compatibility so DOS, Windows, CPM, etc can run on the Mac without the nonsense of BootCamp. Again, use wrappers.

3) iOS Apps to work on the Mac. It's absurd that they don't. Use wrappers if you gotta.

4) Stability.

5) Protection from nasties. (NSA, Terrorists, Viruses, Trojans, etc - use condoms)

6) Speed

7) Smaller footprint - hey, I can dream.

Cross compatibility will never happen since that would require 100% re-write and API's from microsoft that are proprietary. Not gonna happen...the amount of money and time it would cost wouldn't amount to any additional profit.

It seems that it would make sense to finally introduce iOS support and release a full tablet PC.

Not sure what the problem is with stability....OSX has been plenty stable and gets better with each release.

Stay off porn sites.

If your system is slow, consider upgrading. SSDs are probably the biggest boost.

OSX is WAY smaller than any other OS on the market. As I said earlier, using vector graphics could result in much smaller install footprint with infinite resolution scaling options.
 
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