Over 1,680,000 Nexus 4 have been produced (March 29th 2013)

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  1. EbookReader, Jan 22, 2013
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    xda-developers - View Single Post - [INFO] LG Nexus 4 Production Date and Place Identification

    The link to poke at the serial #.
    http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=

    A Little Sleuthing Leads Nexus 4 Enthusiasts To Estimate About 400K In Sales Of The Device | TechCrunch

    from poking at the serial number, they have found the following

    October: 70,000 devices produced
    November: 90,000
    Dec: 210,000
    January: ?

    there is a good chance that January production number might be around 550,000. LG wasn't kidding when they said they have ramped up production.

    752,000 (now) - 70,000 - 90,000 - 210,000 = 382,000 so far in January. And the month has about 10 more days to go.
     
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    They need to push more of those :p btw saw a rumor on another website, something related with LG and Google working toguether for another phone :) maybe the next nexus is on LG hands ?
     
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    There is a good chance that the Nexus 5 will be basing off the LG Optimus G Pro. It has been officially announced on Japanese carrier DoCoMo and here the specs:


    The LG Optimus G Pro boasts a 5-inch 1080p display, nearly no bezel, 1.7GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro, 2GB RAM, 32GB storage with microSDXC card slot, 3000mAh battery, 13MP rear camera and comes with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean out of the box.

    If LG/Google offer the "NEXUS 5 with 16GB" with the specs above at $349, they better have a lot of devices in stock because it will be even more popular than the Nexus 4.

    here's what LG said at CES

    LG Electronics SVP James Fisher went off on a tangent during the firm's packed press conference at CES this morning, revealing that the LG Nexus 4 is just "the first of many" Nexus products it is working on, and hinting that the two companies might be secretly developing another smartphone or tablet device.

    Fisher said, "Through our collaboration with Google, we launched the LG Nexus 4 smartphone. This is the first of many devices to come from our growing partnership with this very selective company."
     
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    Jan 18 production: the 650986th device manufactured

    Jan 22 production: the 750,000th device manufactured
     
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    over 933,000 as of Jan 30th 2013
     
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    Refreshed the UK Nexus 4 website at 15:03 and seen it was back in stock! Purchased the 16GB version :D
     
  7. EbookReader, Jan 31, 2013
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    http://www.zdnet.com/nexus-4-back-on-sale-but-sold-out-in-spain-france-and-australia-7000010620/

    Nexus 4 back on sale, but sold out in Spain, France and Australia



    Let's hope LG keep up with the demand

    according to XDA-Developers users (thread title: [INFO] LG Nexus 4 Production Date and Place Identification), production rate is as followed:

    October: 70,000 devices produced
    November: 90,000
    Dec: 210,000
    January: 500,000+



    from decoding the serial number

    Phone produced in Oct had serial#
    10000 19th of Oct, AUS8BK
    20000 USA
    45000
    60000 AUS
    70123 ATMOBK (t-mobile)

    Something like 70k devices produced in October

    Nov
    73000 1-th AO2UBK (O2 UK model)
    75000 5-th AO2UBK
    80000 5-th AO2UBK
    85000 21-th (?) AUKGBK - strange,
    90000 9-th AUS8BK
    92000 10-th AUS8BK
    95000 - USA
    109000 - GER
    110000 - UK
    132000 - USA
    138000 - USA
    150000 - USA
    160000 - AUSGBK

    DEC
    165000
    264000
    265133 14-th ADEUBK GERMANY
    266133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    267133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    268133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY
    269133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY
    270133 15-th ASWSBK SWS Switzerland (looks like around 500 units)
    271133 16-th AISRBK Israel
    272133 15-th ADEUBK Germany
    273133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    274133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    275133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    277133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    278133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    279133 16-th AMYSBK
    280123 17-th AMYSBK
    289000 18-th UK
    300123 19-th ADEGBK
    305112 19-th ACA8BK
    306000 28-Oct (?) AUSGBK, 211KPPB306000 "csn" is also very different from the "surroundings"
    306001 8-Oct AUSGBK 211KPHG306001 esnoutgodate=null >>Never shipped?
    306009 4-th Dec AUSGBK 212KPHG306009 esnoutgodate=null
    306010 19-th AUS8BK 212KPYR306010 esnoutgodate=null
    306020 19-th AUS8BK esnoutgodate=null
    314001 19-th AFRGBK
    314002 19-th ADEGBK
    314050 19-th ADEGBK
    314123 19-th ADEGBK
    315112 19-th ADE8BK
    319123 20-th ADEGBK
    320123 20-th ADEGBK
    321123 20-th AAUGBK
    325112 20-th AUSGBK
    330123 20-th AUSGBK
    340123 21-th ACAGBK
    350123 22-th AUS8BK
    360123 26-th AUSGBK
    365123 27-th AUS8BK
    370123 27-th AUSGBK
    374110 28-th AUSGBK

    January 2013
    375110 2-th AUS8BK
    377110 3-th ASFRBK
    381110 2-th ASFRBK
    385110 3-th AGBRBK GBR "UNITED KINGDOM" - a new retailer? Play store was a AUKGBK
    390110 3-th AUSGBK
    395110 4-th AUSGBK
    399110 3-th ATMOBK
    400110 4-th AUSGBK
    406110 4-th AUSGBK
    445110 9-th ATMOBK
    450110 9-th ATMOBK
    451110 8-th ANEUBK "EUROPE OPEN" - something new
    455110 8-th ANEUBK
    456110 8-th ACAGBK CANADA_OPEN
    461110 8-th ATMOBK
    463110 8-th ADEGBK
    465110 8-th ADEGBK
    467110 9-th ADEGBK
    469110 9-th ADEGBK
    471110 9-th ATMOBK
    474110 9-th ATMOBK
    476110 9-th ATMOBK
    479110 9-th AUS8BK
    482110 9-th ATMOBK
    485110 10-th AUKGBK "UNITED KINGDOM_OPEN"
    487110 10-th AUKGBK
    489110 10-th AUKGBK
    491110 10-th AAVCBK VIDEOTRON - seems to be a Canadian telco?
    493110 10-th ADEUBK
    495110 10-th ADEUBK
    497110 10-th AISRBK
    499500 10-th AUKGBK
    502035 11-th AUSGBK
    507035 11-th AUSGBK
    512035 11-th AUS8BK
    513035 11-th AUS8BK

    650986 - 18th of January
    752,xxx - 22nd of January

    834,xxx - 27nd of January
    933,xxx - 30th of January


    From techcrunch:

    How did they do it? They’ve taken the IMEI numbers of their phones and backtracked the production number of their devices using an LG mobile link that’s usually used for finding new firmware. An IMEI number, or International Mobile Station Equipment Identity number, is usually printed on the battery compartment of the inside of the phone. It can be used to prevent stolen phones from accessing a network.

    If you take this link and put your IMEI number at the very end, this LG site will spit back out the IMEI followed by a long string of characters that looks something like this: “LGE960 ACAGBK 212KPHG188745 20121206 GLOBAL/GLOBAL N N”

    If you break this string apart, you get:
    LGE960 = phone model
    A = ?
    CA = Country where the device was sold. (Others include ‘US’ for the U.S., ‘HK’ for Hong Kong, ‘AU’ for Australia and so on.)
    G = Storage (G = 16GB, 8 = 8GB)
    BK = Color
    2 = ?
    12 = Production Month (November)
    K = Production Country (Korea)
    PHG = ?
    188745 = The line or production number, showing that phone was the 188,745th device made.
     
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    http://www.n4checker.com/

    The 16GB Nexus 4 sold out in Australia in 20 minutes.

    It sold out in France, Spain too after the first day.

    The 8GB Nexus 4 in the USA is now 3-4 weeks (instead of 1-2 weeks yesterday).

    Look like the demand is still outpacing the supply.
     
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    I find the Nexus product line very interesting. The Phone and Tablet lines have some similarities but also many differences.

    This is a business point of view.

    LG:
    Make a Nexus to be associated with cutting edge Google

    Make Nexus phones at little to no profit at the expense of not selling other LG Android phones that actually earn a profit to maintain their business.

    Hope making an Nexus device influences Android users to buy an LG Android device as their next Android phone. Hopefully a profitable LG flagship phone.

    OEM Android makers don't have the stickiness of Apple, Rimm, or Windows. Why stick with LG when Moto and Samsung make the same thing (skins excluded)

    The only time that someone sticks with Dell vs HP or vice versa is if they had problems and the quality of customer service. If they didn't have problems, price plays a major factor.


    The reason there was a strained supply of Nexus 4 phones was bc LG didn't want to waste their resources on phones that earn them little profit, just goodwill to the android community. They'd prefer to earn some money so they can afford to make the next big thing.

    The problem is that in the Android situation, Google is King. The OEMs fight to do a Nexus device to be perceived as "cool" but loose money or potentially loose sales of their other devices that earn more profit. Google earns the money in this situation, but the OEMs don't earn nearly as much.

    I'll speculate here that over the lifetime use of a Nexus 4, Google may make more profit from data collection and advertising sales than LG will make selling a Nexus 4. Hence the lack of supply.
     
  10. EbookReader, Feb 5, 2013
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    LG executive said this to your theory that LG on purpose limit the supply of Nexus 4:

    http://www.androidauthority.com/nex...ld-out-popularity-explained-lg-france-148214/

    Meanwhile, LG has denied the report, and made further comments in France where Cathy Rubin, LG France’s Mobile division director talked to Challenges.fr about Nexus 4 production, availability and sold out status.

    According to the exec, Nexus 4 production has not been stopped, and it will be increased in the following months. Apparently it’s not LG at fault for the lengthy delivery times but Google’s.

    The Search giant is said to have missed the mark when ordering Nexus 4 units. Google reportedly used sales data from the previous Nexus model to place Nexus 4 orders, but these numbers “were lower than the actual demand.” Starting from mid-February, “there will no longer be any tension in the market,” according to the exec.





    October: 70,000 devices produced
    November: 90,000
    Dec: 210,000
    January: 580,000 produced
    February: on track for 650,000 +


    The executive also said that LG is selling the Nexus 4 to Google at a profit.
     
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    Hey I like this polite discussion. Let's keep this discussion to business rather than Platform favoritism on both sides. (Not us but the other commentators)

    The android authority is a rumors site just like this one. So let's take that with a grain of salt like the headlines on this website.

    Let's put PR statements aside bc we don't know if LG earns $1, or $00.01 per Nexus 4. It could be more but nothing close to Samsung and HTC

    If you ever worked in or managed a factory you would understand this production. It can be complicated by accountants too.

    I'll add more soon if you are interested. It's all business
     
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    Whats with the obsession with how many they sold? It's not like its the 40-50 million Apple sold.
     
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    Given that parties directly involved in this contradict your statement, what are you basing you claim of LG deliberately limiting supply on? Statements have been made publicly that the limited supply was due to Google massively underestimating demand because they based their Nexus 4 manufacturing orders on sales figures of the galaxy nexus.
     
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    Cool.

    So, where is the charging orb?
     
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    That's what I'm saying lol
     
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    So you really think Google based their order on the old galaxy nexus? With all the amazing android growth? I got a 2 bridges to sell you.

    That's all PR

    If you are really interested in how factories work i'll write a simple model regarding this situation.

    What are you willing to contribute?
     
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    You do know that just because Google is not making a profit that doesn't mean LG isn't right? I bet LG is making a profit of the phones it is Google who is not profiting. What stake does lg have in this to for go profit? None so they wouldn't.
     
  18. SlCKB0Y, Feb 9, 2013
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    1. There was only about 12 months from the release of the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4 and during that time Android has been growing at a fairly stable and predictable rate. Google has precise numbers about each and every Android phone which is activated so they would be capable of extrapolating a number based on the previous Nexus sales and the rate at which Android grew over the year.

    2. LG would have been made aware of the margins that they would be seeing on sales of the Nexus 4 prior to them entering into this agreement. They chose to proceed.

    3. If this was just PR, why admit any fault on the part of Google? They could have come up with dozens of other reasons which don't involve admitting they made an error of judgement (yea, that's really good PR spin "we screwed up").

    4. My version is supported by statements made by the companies involved, and your conspiracy theory is backed up by absolutely nothing.

    5. How is it that immediately after the true demand for this device was realised, production has been massively ramping up as evidenced by the numbers? Why isn't LG still sabotaging their production and why isn't Google suing them for a massive breach of contract?

    Produce ONE reliable source which supports your theory.
     
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    Where are your source links? Where is your background education?

    My whole interest in this thread was about manufacturing, but you come with PR statements.?.

    Sorry but I guess I was looking for people smarter than you to have a conversation with, you've never worked in a factor?


    So if any educated people want to talk, I'd like to learn something from you
     
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    You're the one making the wild and unsubstantiated claims, why don't you try and back them up instead of personally attacking me? Because you've got nothing... no substance.

    You couldn't even address ONE of my points. Instead you decide to call me uneducated. I have the following education:

    Bachelor of Science (Psychology)
    Bachelor of Computer Science
    And i'm currently starting on a PhD.
     
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    Sorry for coming off rude.

    Sorry to the OP for hijacking the thread.

    If you want to discuss this more, I'd be happy to do that. I would like to focus on the benefits or downfalls that LG could experience by producing the Nexus 4. From a business point of view. If you want to engage in that type of discussion, I welcome your comments.
     
  22. EbookReader, Mar 30, 2013
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    From XDA Developers Forum



    The monthly production rate will look like this (assuming 10,000 will be produced on March 30 and another 10,000 produced on March 31).

    October: 70,000
    November: 90,000
    December: 210,000
    January: 560,000
    February: 404,000
    March: 366,000

    Total at the end of March: 1,700,000 units
     

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