P2P whats best? (+poll)

Discussion in 'Mac Help/Tips' started by AmbitiousLemon, Mar 3, 2002.

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What p2p app do you think is best?

  1. edonkey

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  2. carracho/hotline/clone

    5 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. audiogalaxy: sputnik/openag

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%
  4. gnutella: limewire/aquisition

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%
  5. Mac Direct Connect

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. multiple: iswipe

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. opennap: drumbeat/XNap/other opennap

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  8. irc (any)

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  9. ftp (any)

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  10. other

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%
  1. Moderator emeritus

    AmbitiousLemon

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    #1
    Ok ive been asking a lot fo questions lately about the various p2p networks and havent gotten any really answers. im beta testing for a number of the companies/groups and cant even get much info from that experience.

    i dug in and did some research about what exactly is out there and compiled a long list.

    i want to know what everyone is using, what they think is best for various functions (mp3s, movies, etc) and just what is involved with all of these protocols.

    currently i use:
    drumbeat beta (for mp3s), carracho (for apps), limewire (when i want to be jerked around), edonkey (cuz its neat), Snak (for movies/tv shows).

    Here is the list I came up with after searching high and low. (there may be a few mistakes but ill make edits as you guys point them out):
    eDonkey
    http://www.edonkey2000.com/

    Hotline
    http://www.bigredh.com
    Fancy
    http://members.tripod.com/wasbeer/fancy_doc/README.html
    frogBlast
    Hotgrabber
    HXD
    inkspot
    panorama
    pitbull
    ripcord
    hotline connect
    htlx
    tube

    Haxial
    http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/

    Carracho
    http://www.carracho.com

    Direct Connect
    http://javadc.sourceforge.net/

    streamload
    http://www.streamload.com/

    Gnutella:
    limewire
    http://www.limewire.com/
    mactella
    http://www.cxc.com/downloads.html
    aquisition
    http://www.xlife.org/aquisition.php
    MacPhex
    furi
    liberty

    Multiple:
    iswipe
    http://www.hillmanminx.com/
    MP3 Rage
    http://www.chaoticsoftware.com/ProductPages/MP3Rage.html

    OpenNap:
    XNap
    http://xnap.sourceforge.net/
    drumbeat
    http://www.drumbeat.info
    macigator
    napster minibrowser
    smacigator
    rapster
    belgonap
    jnapster
    mapigator
    maxter

    AudioGalaxy
    sputnik
    http://www.biggerplanet.com/unsupported/sputnix.html
    MacSatellite
    http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=11686&db=mac
    OpenAG
    http://homepage.mac.com/macdomeeu/dev/current/openag/

    IRC
    Athena
    http://athena.paladinmacs.com/
    hypIRC
    Snak
    ShadowIRC
    JIM
    JediKnight
    MacBitchX
    MacIRC
    Metrotalk
    nIRC
    PhatIRC
    smIRCle
    BlitzFly
    http://diabolo.clockerz.net/blizflitz.html
    cIRCe
    http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=902&db=mac
    Els
    http://www.elsinc.com/files.html
    IRCLE

    FTP
    captain ftp
    gideon
    simpleftp
    osXigen
    Beehive
    fetch
    Filefetcher
    Hefty
    netFinder
    Transmit
    UFTP
    Vicomsoft FTP Client
     
  2. arn
    macrumors god

    arn

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    #2
    Depends on what you are looking for...

    For the Mac...

    MP3's => Audiogalaxy
    DIVX's => eDonkey2000 / usenet

    arn
     
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    irmongoose

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    #3
    arn, I owe it to you.. I downloaded Sputnix, and it ROCKS!!! It's much easier than Limewire, and MUCH MUCH faster, and it even has international songs! (I was searching for over an hour in Limewire for a japanese song, and finally i gave up, installed sputnix, set up an account for audiogalaxy, and i got the song immediately)


    by the way, for big programs.... Caraccho is THE best. But be careful, using this is going WAY over the law boudaries....

    and for smaller programs, i will still use Limewire.




    irmongoose
     
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    krossfyter

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    #4
    okay how is it going over the law boundaries? whos law?

    i thought it was illegal to sell copied software but not illegal to share it or copy it. ive heard that not even the fbi can touch you.
     
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    irmongoose

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    #5
    of course its illegal. you can share it within your own family and stuff, but not with other people like you do in Carracho.

    but, these people who make servers on Carracho have an excuse - they say that they are just using it as a backup drive.

    so then, of course the FBI cant touch them.


    and you're talking about music CDs - you can share them, but you cant sell them. software is totally different.


    irmongoose
     
  6. macrumors 601

    krossfyter

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    #6
    well from what I heard on tech live...

    that dude who downloaded a bunch of software from some apple computers at compusa with his iPod .....they said that that wasnt illegal since he wasnt selling the software....compusa had no case against him. they made it a point to say that the law needs to be rewritten in order to make the oppurtunity of software copying illegal.


    thats just what i heard from tech lives silicon spin. of course i could have heard wrong.
     
  7. arn
    macrumors god

    arn

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    #7
    I've posted this a few times...

    Copying commerical software is illegal - it doesn't matter if you sell it or not. Same with any copyrighted material... including music/movies.

    arn
     
  8. arn
    macrumors god

    arn

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    #8
    The "Backup" excuse is not one that carries any legal weight... and this _does_ apply to music CD's. Illegal to copy - not just to sell. (why do you think Napster got shut down?)

    In general, all P2P apps are somewhat fringe topics in that much of the activity on them is illegal... and as a result, I prefer that specifics not be discussed... general discussions about them is acceptable...

    arn
     
  9. macrumors 68030

    irmongoose

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    #9

    ok. thanks for clearing that up, arn. i'll be careful not to talk about this stuff much then. :)


    hey arn, you can get an avatar now! :):)


    irmongoose
     
  10. macrumors 601

    krossfyter

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    #10

    hmmm obviously there are two sides to this coin.... i hear from credible people as yourself quite the opposite. but since were not suppost to talk about this i will stop from going any further. ill take your word for it. thanks.
     
  11. arn
    macrumors god

    arn

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    #11
    we can certainly talk about the legality of it... I just don't think it's appropriate for people to discuss specific trading/sharing.

    You can research it yourself... but it's a pretty basic definition of the whole concept of a copyright

    http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wci

    Here's a FAQ http://www.faqs.org/faqs/law/copyright/myths/part1/ on copyright law myths:

    2) "If I don't charge for it, it's not a violation."

    False. Whether you charge can affect the damages awarded in court, but that's essentially the only difference. It's still a violation if you give it away -- and there can still be heavy damages if you hurt the commercial value of the property.


    And again - think to yourself - Why was napster shut down if it's not illegal?

    arn
     
  12. macrumors 601

    krossfyter

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    #12
    okay thanks arn...im on my way to read those links.

    from what i can gather on why napster was shut down is because the government wants music package sellers to still be in business....it helps out the econmy (so they think) as compared to napster remaining up with out the users having to pay. the argument of copying music as being illegal is the surface excuss to add weight and validity to hide and turn attention away from thier shadow motive. i could be wrong.
     
  13. arn
    macrumors god

    arn

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    #13
    heh.... or the more simple (less conspiracy theory) reason being "it's illegal"... besides - these aren' mutually exclusive... even if you do believe that the govt wants the music-industry in business doesn't mean that it can't also be against the law.

    besides... the govt didn't bring the suit against napster... the music industry did.

    regardless... just read the above links...

    arn
     

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