Pa. Governor to Sue NCAA

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    Muscle Master

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    I'm glad that bastard got what he deserves.. I'm talking bout Sandusky, but what the hell does the NCAA have to do with this... where do they get off with fining the school
     
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    It was just an excuse for the NCAA to rake in more money... just like everything else that they do.

    There is no reason in hell the State of PA, who runs Penn State and is no doubt in a budget crisis like the rest of the country, should be giving $60 million dollars to the NCAA.

    The NCAA is such a sham organization. It's all about money to them, not academics or anything else.
     
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    Schools have been fined for a lot less. This is Penn State putting football above anything else. The sanctions are justified.

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    Penn State is not about academics either. It's all about the football team.

    Penn State has bigger issues to worry about, like a $200 million lawsuit from the molested kids.
     
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    Might have something to do with the fact that the school knew about the abuse and covered it up for years, allowing more children to get raped by Sandusky.

    The school should be lucky they're just getting fined, if it were up to me, some of the higher ups at the school would be Sandusky's new prison bitch.
     
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    They could care less about the money, they want Joe Pa's records back, that is all this lawsuit is.
     
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    Good for the governor and I say go for it.

    Frankly the NCAA overstepped there power on this one.

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    sums it up perfectly as far as I am concerned. The NCAA General Counsel even admits it is a criminal act.

    It was a criminal act and needs to be address by the appropriate group. Vacating 14 years worth of victories by the football teams during that time does nothing but punish the kids that played during that time.

    Paterno reported his suspicions and the people above him did nothing about it. Don't punish him for the failings of those above him.
     
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    The university needs to be punished for putting Football before all else. Surely that $60 mil can come out of the football coffers.

    It is time for Penn State to refocus and recall the purpose of a university.
     
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    You guys do realize that EVERY Division 1 NCAA school in this country puts athletics and profits over academics, right? It's not like it's something exclusive to Penn State.

    It's what the NCAA is about. Athletics and money making under the lie of being a "school". That's what makes them such a joke. They punish athletes (see OJ Mayo, Reggie Bush, etc) and schools when the athletes receive any form of benefit because they are an athlete all while laughing all the way to the bank with their hundreds of millions of dollars. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
     
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    I'm quite aware, and I think it is awful. Penn State let this powerful institution go too far, however.
     
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    Can you cite the section of the NCAA rules that states that criminal acts are immune from the NCAA's authority under Provision 4.1.2 to fine and otherwise penalize member institutions for violations of the NCAA's rules, including in particular the rule allowing the NCAA to fine a member institution for lack of "institutional controls" to prevent criminal behavior?
     
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    Lamentably, those who suffer will be the students and the people of PA. The school will not allow its football program to be compromised by the fine. Sad.
     
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    What the hell does football have to do with college? And, since when is NCAA participation required of Penn State? NCAA participation by a college is purely voluntary. If Penn State wants the huge financial benefit of NCAA participation, they can pay the fine. If they don't like it, drop out of the NCAA and and join the NAIA instead.

    Oh wait, it's all about the money. That explains it. And, apparently, Penn State doesn't think the injuries suffered by the victims warrant this punishment. Words cannot express the extent of my contempt for Tom Corbett's action.
     
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    Governor Corbett should be kissing the NCAA's feet for allowing Penn State to even still be running a football program. If I were on the NCAA board that program would of got the death penalty.
     
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    My sentiment exactly. The NCAA should have shut the program down for a year and forced Penn State to start completely from scratch.

    Is the NCAA being hypocritical? Sure:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/12/04/why-i-wont-be-cheering-for-old-notre-dame/

    But, at least the Penn State case shows that there are limits. Once it is acknowledged that limits to institutional behavior have to exist, the NCAA can decide exactly what the limits really should be. In my opinion, the Penn State case is so egregious my reaction has been and continues to be that the punishment was an insufficient deterrent. But, at least it is a start.
     
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    This!!!

    Up until May I lived right near Penn State and people in this area's minds are poisoned. All they care about is their school and their football team and will try and use any excuse to justify sticking up for that **** school. (It is a **** school too I went there for two years and learned practically nothing).

    The school could care less about education (and obviously the well-being of children), its all about football and money.


    Basically it boils down to the fact that there is ZERO excuse for covering up child molestation. PSU deserved everything it got.
     
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    The PA Governor is suing because a football coaching squad and its backing school is being punished for conspiracy to keep a pedophile on the staff. He makes my head hurt.

    It amazes me how people don't think the NCAA should punish Penn State for this, yet are okay for Ohio State being punished because kids traded autographs and trophies for tattoos, yet Cam Newton got the Heisman after getting cash from Mississippi State.

    I can smell the hypocrisy from here.
     
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    People need to really get their shtuff straight - this is the Governor of Pennsylvania on behalf of the State of Pennsylvania suing - NOT Penn State.

    Penn State is fine to be complying with the NCAA's judgment.

    Football and PSU have nothing to do with this specific suit.
     
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    No way the fine and punishment is thrown out in court. All the NCAA would have to do is kick Penn St out of the organization. The school and state would lose a LOT more than $60 million. Bet the governor would S T F U then.
     
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    so his re-election campaign has started already?
     
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    This isn't necessarily true. It is a public institution and therefore may not have the ability to use funds earmarked for academic projects.
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/opinion/penn-state-lessons-not-learned.html
     
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    ....and we have a winner.
     
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    Cut away all the noise and that's the signal, ain't it?
     
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    1. Football is a huge draw for any college. It turns out even really smart young people will choose a school based on other programs in concert with academics.

    2. NCAA participation is hugely important for reason 1. Probably more important that you think.

    3. By acknowledging 1 and 2, it is not hard to surmise that by severely punishing Penn State, the NCAA has hurt the academic institution in State College. The NCAA does not exist to do that, and in doing so have violated their own commitment to student athletes.

    4. A horrible crime was committed. We all understand. The fact is, a man will spend the rest of his life in jail for it, and the people who covered it up are either dead or going to jail. The rest of the school is innocent until proven guilty.
     

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