Pandora to Remove 40-Hour Free Listening Limit Ahead of iTunes Radio Launch

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    During today's earnings call, Pandora CFO Mike Herring said the company will again allow unlimited listening via mobile devices, eliminating its recently implemented monthly cap. First introduced in February, Pandora's 40-hour per month limit was put in place as a direct result of increased royalty rates.

    While desktop Pandora listeners were able to listen to unlimited music, mobile users that exceeded 40 hours had to subscribe to the Pandora One service at $36/year or pay a small fee.

    According to Herring, both increased advertising income and and tighter control over other cost saving techniques have allowed the cap to be lifted. TechCrunch has a transcript of the call:
    September will also see the debut of Apple's iTunes Radio, which is bundled into iOS 7. iTunes Radio will be ad-supported for all subscribers, though ad-free service is available for iTunes Match subscribers. iTunes Match includes iCloud syncing for music acquired outside of iTunes and is priced at $25 annually -- significantly cheaper than the $36 Pandora One.

    Pandora CEO Joe Kennedy told AllThingsD that the company is not worried about the launch of iTunes Radio:
    Pandora has reported revenues of $162 million, up 58% year over year. Its 40-hour listening cap will be eliminated on September 1, less than two weeks before iTunes Radio and iOS 7 are expected to be unveiled at Apple's September 10 iPhone event.

    Article Link: Pandora to Remove 40-Hour Free Listening Limit Ahead of iTunes Radio Launch
  2. macrumors 65816

    Mar 17, 2009
    It's too bad Pandora's not in Canada to even care about it.
  3. macrumors regular

    Feb 14, 2011
    Obviously a preemptive strike concerned about iTunes radio announcement.
  4. macrumors 601

    Compile 'em all

    Apr 6, 2005
    Isn't Pandora US-only? I already have iTunes Match. So getting iRadio for free is very welcome. :D
  5. macrumors 6502a

    May 24, 2013
    I could see why they may be worried. Ios has a huge user base so iTunes Radio is a competitor. Another example of how competition benefits the consumer :cool:
  6. macrumors 6502

    May 3, 2011
    Upper Midwest
    They'd be stupid not to be concerned about this and to respond accordingly. I can see them losing mobile market share quicker and more prominently than desktop market share.
  7. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 21, 2013
  8. macrumors member

    Aug 10, 2011
    Ive been short your ass since the word of apple tv... Finally i make some money hhhhaaa??!!
  9. macrumors 6502


    Oct 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, California.
    Love how they say "We're not worried".....really?

    So you decided to make this change all of a sudden huh? lol.
  10. macrumors 68000


    Oct 26, 2011
    Alpha Centauri A
    I've never even hit the 40 hour limit before.
  11. macrumors 65816

    Mar 17, 2009
    To add to my first post, iRadio and Spotify are also not in Canada. The only service in Canada is like Rdio and something else.
  12. macrumors 6502

    May 7, 2012
    Little Rock, AR
    Too little; too late. iTunes Match with ad free radio is a much better deal than Pandora.
  13. macrumors 6502a


    Jul 21, 2010
    United States of America
    They should be worried. It come with every Apple product starting this fall. New users, who's going to download, create ANOTHER account to have something that comes stock?? Not to mention how much easier its going to be for runners,bikers,in the car, to just switch from radio to playlists or albums. Pandora will lose a major source of revenue. After all, iOS users spend more than any other user base.
  14. macrumors 65816

    Nov 15, 2010
  15. macrumors 68000

    Jun 24, 2010
    Ultimately both products are crap unless you like listening to the same song over and over again. These products are just one step above what you get on satellite radio minus the talk radio stations.
  16. macrumors 68000


    Apr 23, 2008
    Pennsylvania, USA
    QUOTE "Our investment in advertising infrastructure and implementing smart levers such as reducing song skipping and limiting mobile listening have helped us drive monetization and manage content costs, as reflected by the increase in RPM and a decrease in content costs as a percentage of revenue"

    Well, that makes it clear.;)
  17. macrumors 603


    Mar 11, 2013
    See! Competition is a good thing. That is why I don't get all the people who hate Apple and want it to go away. If you don't like them that's fine, but why wish them bankrupt? Competition (and money) drives innovation.
  18. macrumors regular

    Dec 4, 2011
    I'll be another one to add to the chorus of ^^^^this^^^^. Upon arrival of iOS 7 and iTunes Radio, bye bye Pandora.
  19. macrumors member

    Oct 29, 2012
  20. macrumors 68040

    Nov 20, 2008
  21. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 7, 2006
    Is iTunes Radio even a threat to Pandora? I stopped paying for Pandora in favor of Slacker Radio, but I don't plan on dropping Slacker for iTunes Radio. From what I know about it, it just seems meh.
  22. macrumors 601

    Dec 18, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    Pandora is going to lose a ton of users to iTunes radio. I have iTunes Match and probably will ditch Pandora as soon as I get iOS 7. It was fun while it lasted.
  23. macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2009
    Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. A lesson painfully learned by the former CEOs of Palm, BlackBerry, RealPlayer, Rio....
  24. macrumors 68000

    Jun 24, 2010
    As a Android diehard I don't want Apple to go away. I want Apple to give me that same feeling I had when the iPhone 4 came out in the summer of 2010 but due to being a Verizon customer I had to wait. And I wasn't interested in a 7 month old iPhone 4 when it finally did come to Verizon. Now Google/Android OEM's have surpassed Apple and Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. Almost 2 years at the helm with no original ideas. Just rehashes of the same old products. iWatch and iTV will be no different; just rehashes of products already on the market. If it wasn't for developers keeping the App store in stock Apple would be no different than Blackberry.
  25. macrumors regular

    Aug 22, 2013
    If Pandora is so quickly willing to drop their 40 hour listening limit now, it just proves they didn't have a good reason to have a limit to begin with. Pandora sucks all day long!!

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