I, like most of you, recently installed panther on my machine. Its not that i really think it's all that bad really, it has definately made my computer faster, but i really do regret it and i definately don't think it was worth it. Apple boasts of 150 new features, most of which are not indepth on there website, and i'm sure 90% of which aren't even useful to most users, developers excluded. I personally purchased it for a few of the highlighted features, namely font book- i hate using third party font software, believe me i've tried EVERYTHING and damn near all of it sucks, i saw this feature and thought that apple had finally done it right and all my font problems would be over. I was wrong, font book is HUGE disappointment, that slowed my computer down so much. i have been on the phone with apple for the past two days and i'm still having font problems. file vault - was a good idea in theory, but then so was communism. ideas are worthless without proper execution. i find that connecting to other computers on my network at work was far easier before panther came along. Don't get me wrong, its not really the OS i hate as much as the hassle that comes along with switching to it. Overall its been headaches, my time wasted on the phone, and my work slowed down, for really nothing much. I'm out some money, and to use some of the new features, such as ichat a/v, i have to shell out $150 bucks. on top of it a lot of the features don't work as advertised. When i pay $3000 for a computer and $120 for software i don't want to have to deal with this stuff, I want ease of use, i want reliability, and i don't want my time waste, and that is my right as a consumer. Apple is professional company about ease of use and such neglegance really is intolerable. it should be painless to switch. i think that the technology industry has had such mishaps in the past that should have been learned from. Which is to say they should have tested their product better. Please if you're going to reply to this post, please do not reply telling me how great apple is. I know everyone on here is a mac lover, and with good reason. I am one too. But i hate posts from people who just love anything and everything mac does, if you can't be objective about them then you really don't have an opinion. While they're far better than anything else out there, they're definatelly not perfect. sorry just had to vent.