Panther Slow Down?

Discussion in 'Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) Discussion' started by DeusOmnis, Mar 2, 2004.

  1. DeusOmnis macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
    I installed panther the day it came out, and everything ran awesome. I did a clean install by backing up everything onto DVD first and then overwriting the HD with zeros. The startup time seemed like instantaneous, the system ran smooth. However, some time in january everything changed. The system started taking several minutes to start up (instead of seconds) and there were times that the system resources seemed to be straining. I checked iPulse and found nothing wrong. I checked the process viewer and nothing was hogging resources, there wasnt any background applications using up significant resources. The processor was at the same clock speed, and I ran xBench and it scored slightly HIGHER than when I ran it before. So I cannot figure out what is wrong, other than that panther seems to be running crazy slow. Has anyone else had problems like this? I havnt tried cleaning caches yet (just thought of that), but that shouldnt make that huge of a difference.
  2. Laslo Panaflex macrumors 65816

    Laslo Panaflex

    May 1, 2003
    If it is any consultation I have noticed slowdown as well. The slowdown occurs when I am doing long reders in Compressor or Livetype. It seems like if my computer is booted up for a over a day, when I try to render it is slower than I know it can go. This always happens to me and the only fix that I can find is restarting the computer. After a restart the computer renders out super fast.

    I have not gone trough and done all the troubleshooting like you have to find out the problem, but I seem to think that it is a memory leak or something like that. I am running 10.3.2 on a DP 2gig G5 and I have 1.5 gigs of ram, 512 from apple and 1gig from crucial. This problem does not bother me that much so I have learned to deal with it. If anyone has any solutions or suggestions let me know.

    I hope this eases your pain DeusOmnis
  3. DeusOmnis thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI

    I have only a DP 1ghz MDD G4, unfortunately, and my computer is being really slow on start up too, which wouldnt be caused by a memory leak. If I dont figure it out by this weekend, I think I might just back up the computer and start over.

    On another note I remember that I enabled journaling on the harddrive (which makes it impossible to defrag). I might check into if that's bad or not. If I reinstall I'll disable it.
  4. DeusOmnis thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
    I have cleaned the caches with panther cache cleaner.
    I have tried disabling APE.
    I have tried disabling my firewall.

  5. janey macrumors 603


    Dec 20, 2002
    sunny los angeles
    journaling shouldnt prevent your computer from defragging the drive.

    Run fsck a few times, do the usual zapping pram stuff, maybe put some more RAM in there. Try to stay away from haxies and themes. If you're really that desperate, then reinstall Panther.
  6. oldschool macrumors 65816


    Sep 30, 2003
    Did you update your prebinding?

    type this in the terminal: sudo update_prebinding -root / -force

    It's from this article:
  7. ElectricSheep macrumors 6502


    Feb 18, 2004
    Wilmington, DE
    As for startups, if you haven't done this already then do this now:

    Drop into a terminal and type the following line:

    sudo ln -s /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheControl /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl

    Hit enter and approve the operation by typing your password.

    Reboot twice. You should notice a modest improvement in boot times. There was an errata with the rc startup script that shipped with Panther where the BootCacheControl was being called from /usr/sbin/. However, BootCacheControl doesn't reside in /usr/sbin/, so the Boot Cache was never properly managed.

    You can also boot up into verbose mode (hold command-V at startup) to see what is going on during the boot process line for line.


    On defragging, according to Apple there is little reason to defragment a disk that has been formatted as HFS+ and is running MacOS X 10.2 or 10.3. With aggressive caching, delayed allocation, and hot file adaptive clustering the gains you might actually get from defragmenting your drive are vastly outweighed by the downtime spent doing it.

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