Parallels & Bootcamp Question

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  1. patrick0brien macrumors 68040

    patrick0brien

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    -All, any et al.

    Proud new owner of a brand new C2D MPB15. And I have Windows on the way.

    Question:

    Can both Bootcamp and Parallels exist and be useable on the machine? (I know, not at the same time, but sometimes instead of virtualizing WXP in OSX I might wish to boot)

    If so, how do you recommend I go about the installation sequence? Parallels first? Bootcamp first? Anything I need to be careful of? What kind of behaviours can I expect? Will booting in bootcamp enter a different version (e.g. user schema) than the Parallels Virtualized version?

    Ok, that was more than one question, but any would be great.
     
  2. arrash macrumors member

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    Boot Camp and Parallels installations are isolated from one another. When you install Parallels, the program creates a Virtual Machine Image File that it uses as a virtual hard drive. When you install Windows, it installs onto that file. When installing Boot Camp, you physically partition your drive to have a seperate partition dedicated to Windows. There is no correlation between the two.

    I use this setup myself. I have Parallels setup with Windows XP on my MBP C2D on a 8GB virtual drive and use Parallel's Shared Folders to access my Mac files. This is great for just quickly doing some non-graphic intensive work.

    I also have Boot Camp installed on a seperate physical 20GB partition running Windows XP for when I need the full speed and power of the CPU and graphics subsystem (ie: gaming!!). I use Mac Drive (a windows program that lets Windows users access Mac formatted volumes) to access all my Mac info on the HFS+ Partition.

    The worst part is not having the same user environment when switching from Parallels to Boot Camp. As far as installing, it makes no difference which you install first. I hope that helps.
     
  3. balamw Moderator

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    While order doesn't matter, Boot Camp's partitioning tool works best with a less full drive.

    So you should try to create the Boot Camp partition as soon as you can, just to avoid having any unmovable files created in OS X that will stop you from doing so easily.

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  4. thicke macrumors newbie

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    If you're going to use both boot camp and Parallels, you'll need two licenses (copies) for Windows. I am pretty sure that WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) will see the two different copies as being installed on two different pieces of hardware, which requires two licenses.
     
  5. balamw Moderator

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    FWIW Various folks have said that they called microsoft for a new activation code using the same license and told them exactly what they were trying to do, install natively and in a VM on the same machine, and were able to use the same license for both BC and Parallels.

    Personally I avoid this by running 2KSP4 and VistaRC2 in Parallels and XPSP2 Home in Boot Camp.

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  6. patrick0brien thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Wow guys, thanks.

    If I install Bootcamp, I understand that a partitioning is required. It's been a while since I've done this: Repartitioning will still blow away my drive's data right? So a backup is required?

    This is very helpful - perhaps one of the mods can make this sticky.
     
  7. kidzdoc macrumors newbie

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    activation

    I have that exact same setup and activated my Windows XP successfully yesterday. All it takes is a phone call to MS and explaining the situation to them. Relatively painless. Good luck.
     
  8. balamw Moderator

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    No. That's the beauty of the Boot Camp tool. It allows to add and remove the Windows partition without losing your OS X data, and this is why it's best to at least create the partition early before your HDD gets too full.

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  9. patrick0brien thread starter macrumors 68040

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    -balamw

    Ah! So it's a virtual partition - or 'breadboxed' one huh?

    Cuuuuulll! Thanks!
     
  10. balamw Moderator

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    Nah, it's a real partition, they just give you the tool to create in non destructively. Think Partition Magic on the PC side of life.

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  11. patrick0brien thread starter macrumors 68040

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  12. thicke macrumors newbie

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    I wonder if Microsoft is feeling OK....It's surprisingly cool of them to do that.
    :cool:
     
  13. patrick0brien thread starter macrumors 68040

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  14. ChickenSwartz macrumors 6502a

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    They want to keep people happy. We are inf act buying a retail copy of windows. What do they care if people run windows on a dell or a mac?
     
  15. balamw Moderator

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    You can't miss it once you try to authorize the second copy in Parallels. :p

    I often wonder if MS is feeling OK, but usually not because of licensing issues. Brown? :p

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  16. thicke macrumors newbie

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    UM...We are talking about the same Microsoft here...right?
     

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