PB been crashing lately...help!

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  1. K2` macrumors member

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    ok.. i've got a 12" PB 1.33 .. i installed some new ram (1gig) and occasionaly i'm getting that screen that tells me that i hafta reboot. It usually happens when its from a cold boot. The pb wont' tell me to reboot if its been on for a while/woken up from sleep mode.. or if i hope hard enough that it won't crash after a cold bootup.

    I bought my ram on ebay from Macramdirect. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=80037&item=5784704361&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

    coudl it be the ram? or is it something else?

    TIA
     
  2. Huked on Fonick macrumors 6502

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    1) Boot from ur Tiger(or Panther CD) and Repair Disk and Permissions. 2)Run a ram test on the ram and see what it says. 3)Try taking out the ram and see if it still does it. 4)Check out http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html
     
  3. wdlove macrumors P6

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    If you purchased that RAM it could be a problem. It's best to purchase RAM from a reputable dealer like Crucial. Most will have a life time warranty. Will have a locator so that you get the exact RAM designed for your particular Mac. If you purchased AppleCare you could run the CD that comes with it, which is essentially Tech Tools. It will run a check of all your hardware including RAM.
     
  4. Applespider macrumors G4

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    Sounds very like a bad RAM problem. Can you return it to them?
     
  5. K2` thread starter macrumors member

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    probably can't return the ram...

    when i first installed the ram.. it seem to run ok.. just this past week it started doing this.

    I ran techtool deluxe on the ram.. it says it checks ok.. how reliable is this checker?

    i dont' have the cds on me since i'm at work, but is there anything else i can do?
     
  6. shadowmoses macrumors 68000

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    This is a typical syptom of bad RAM i had the same problem in a previous mac of mine, try running a RAM check and try and return it to the vendor,

    SHadOW :cool:
     
  7. Linkjeniero macrumors 6502

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    I had the exact same problem (same computer, even) a few months back. It's a bad RAM, you need to get it replaced. Just to be sure though, run Hardware Test.
     
  8. K2` thread starter macrumors member

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    i already ran the ram test on techtool deluxe.. and i just ran rember.. another ram testing thing.. and both programs pass.... so is it ram then? cuz i do have lifetime warranty on this ram, but how am i suppose to prove that its the ram?
     
  9. Huked on Fonick macrumors 6502

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    Repair you disk and permissions first before u jump to ram(it probably is the ram) but you never know, go through all the trouble shooting steps. That site i gave you is pretty good for trouble shooting kernal panics.

    I am currently having kernal panics with my new powerbook (same as yours) and it is NOT the RAM, or disk permissions.......It has something to do with my user.....Neather i nor applecare can figure it out since the logs essencelly report that the kernal has paniced and error number 00000000 has occured(which isent very helpful). Creating a new user fixed the problem.

    you can also try to call up applecare, and ask for a product specalist. They might be able to help you out.

    Edit: If you had the ram in there for a while and it just started kernal panicing recently it might not be the ram, that and the fact that ram test says its ok(have had it do it b4 when it was the ram)....It could be something else yet even...who knows.......(like a bad kernal extension from upgrading to tiger or some program u installed etc)...........

    Like i said earyler Trouble Shoot it from that page i gave you and call up applecare and ask for a product specialist.
     
  10. K2` thread starter macrumors member

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    ok.. so i ram the disk repair utility from the panther cd.... and i got this error:

    Keys out of order

    ...then it tried to repair it i think.. and i got this..

    Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit (-9972)

    so...?
     
  11. wdlove macrumors P6

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    Since you mentioned still running Panther, my wife was having a similar problem to your. Her 15" PowerBook improved with 10.3.9. Since installing Tiger she no longer has and crash problems.
     
  12. K2` thread starter macrumors member

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    yea... i already have 10.3.9 installed a while ago. And i dont' really have the cash to buy tiger right now.
     
  13. jmsait19 macrumors 6502

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    I am having something of a similar problem, but not entirely the same.

    My computer has recently started shutting down when I close the lid...

    This has happened rather frequently lately. Now I did install new RAM but I am not sure if this is a RAM problem.

    Although it doesn't seem that it shuts down everytime...It sometimes seems that it just freezes. I'm judging that by how I have to hit the power button to restart it. Sometimes I hit it and it powers up, signaling a shutdown, and sometimes I have to hold it to shut it down, and then hit it again to power it up.

    One more thing that happened, and this may just be a fluke, but I unplugged the power while listening to some music, and it locked up. The music started repeating the way a windows computer would lock up...

    Anyone have any ideas??
     
  14. K2` thread starter macrumors member

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    *sigh*.. i thought everything was fixed when i ran diskwarrior and repaired the disk.. and no ram errors on the test... but just yesterday.. it was crashing a lot.. ... .it did one thing in particular tho.. it kept scrolling with all this mumble jumble... it went on for a few minutes.. so i just rebooted rather than waiting for it to finish. After the reboot, it still crashed a lot... but I also lost some file association with stuff... all my bookmarks in safari are gone...blah! ....

    so this morning.. i ran the disk tests again.. same error.. "keys out of order" ... i think diskwarrior fixed it.. i'm gonna do the ram test now.... but what would you guys say it is? ram? hd? is any of this covered by apple care?
     
  15. andiwm2003 macrumors 601

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    when i had faulty ram in my PB it crashed randomly. so i repaired file permissions. during that process the faulty ram screwed up my HD. things got worse, more crashes, lost files, lost permissions. i repaired file permissions again and the HD became unusable. i booted from the DVD and ran hardware test and only on the second or third time it showed faulty ram. on the fourth time it wouldn't even boot anymore. i took the ram out, replaced it, no crash since then (a few month).

    test the ram :(
    andi
     

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