PB17" Ram issues-Crucial vs. Apple -HELP!!

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by J-Ro, Jul 30, 2004.

  1. macrumors newbie

    Nov 9, 2003
    I bought my 17" 1.33 PB with a 1 gig chip in it - so 1 slot is free. Just upgraded to OS 10.3.4

    I recently purchased and installed a 512 chip from crucial.com (I had been told by experts that their ram was top notch) ($100). It doesn't matter if it is in slot 2 (with the original 1 gig chip in slot 1), or alone in slot 1 - my mac now freezes very quickly.
    (Needless to say - my PB runs fine when the original apple 1 gig chip is in it alone)

    I'm going to swap the new 512 out with a replacement from Crucial (they were very responsive) but what a guy from the Santa Monica Apple store told me today was cause for concern.....

    He told me that he owned an identical 17" Powerbook.... and he had gone thru exactly the same aggravation. He said he went thru many exchanges with third party vendor ram... and finally had to use 'apple' ram. He explained that apples are very, very picky about ram - and ultimately apple ram is the way to go. (no he doesn't get commission)

    here is the drag - a 512 chip from apple is $300 - a 1 gig chip is $700

    Is this crazy? What on earth is up with this? :mad:
  2. macrumors 6502

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ram can be a very difficult thing. He is correct in saying that you are less likely to have problems out of the Apple ram, but you can get bad ram from anywhere.

    If you have had the ram tested and found to be bad, then try replacing it from the retailer. If it continues to be bad, then try ram from another source or Apple
  3. macrumors 6502a

    Maxx Power

    Apr 29, 2003
    in a capitalistic system, this phenomenon is called Monopoly.
  4. macrumors 65816


    May 3, 2004
    Hamilton, Ontario (CANADA)
    Apple does not make RAM. They usually buy it from Samsung or Crucial (rarely) Try to find out if the RAM you would be buying at the Apple store is Samsung. Even if you can't find out what RAM apple is using in this case just buy a Samsung chip at a place with a good return policy.
  5. macrumors newbie

    Aug 11, 2004
    Kitchener, Ontario
    Real Apple 512 RAM for $130

    Here is a link to Samsung RAM...what Apple uses.....The Apple store rep in Buffalo I spoke to on the phone said Apple uses Samsung

  6. macrumors 6502a

    Mar 28, 2003
    I have bought RAM from Trans Intl for my laptops (PB and iBook) and Crucial for the desktop and it's always worked out. I had to swap out the Cruical RAM twice due to problems but the new sticks worked like a charm. Lots of other people seem to have success with Crucial. The reason I went with Trans Intl is that it's cheaper (but I have no idea what "brand" it is)
  7. macrumors 68000


    Aug 11, 2003
    I agree that Samsung is good RAM, but it's not the only RAM that Apple ever uses. My 17" PB came stock with a 512MB Hynix chip not Samsung. I added a 512MB Samsung and they're both working just fine together. I also previously had an eMac that came stock from Apple with Crucial RAM. I figure Apple just buys whatever RAM that works and that they can get the cheapest that given day.
  8. macrumors 68020


    May 7, 2003
    Saint Augustine, FL
    Or, "You get what you pay for". Perhaps Apple tests out the ram they get from samsung before selling it.
  9. macrumors 65816


    Aug 4, 2004
    San Francisco, CA
    I bought 100% cheap generic ass RAM from www.18004memory.com... several times.

    Never had a problem.

    Just slapped a 256 MB stick in my Rev B 12".

    My G5 on the other hand....
  10. macrumors 6502a


    Nov 22, 2003
    It's probably not true; let Crucial replace it for you once. If that doesn't work out, check the brand of your current stick and pickup that. If even that doesn't work, pick it up through Apple :(.
  11. macrumors 6502a

    Oct 3, 2002
    Same here...my new 17" PowerBook came with 512MB Hynix and I just added a 512MB Samsung and all is working just great. I was really surprised that the stock chip wasn't Samsung, though. Every Apple I've bought has had Samsung.

    I have also bought from Crucial for upgrades and have never had any problems with them at all.
  12. macrumors 6502a

    May 17, 2004
    I never understood why Crucial has a good price on their 512 PowerBook 15/17 stick but a horrible price on their gigabyte stick. it's usually about 360-320, but they charge 470

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