PC vs. Mac

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by atif.muhammad, Oct 30, 2004.

  1. atif.muhammad macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2004
    none of your business

    i want an iBook and i need to convince my parents enough to show that there is a significant different between the iBook and an ordinary Windows laptop.

    my dad takes the price seriously.
  2. edesignuk Moderator emeritus


    Mar 25, 2002
    London, England
    Might wanna read this, it' a thread along the same lines as this one.
  3. DJY macrumors 6502a


    Dec 20, 2003
    Canberra AUST
    They look good
    They work
    They are beautiful
    They are intuitive
    They have great hardware and software interaction.

    If your Dad is stuck on price... use some analogies...

    e.g. I bought a new nice Pen (Mont Blanc roller ball) which clearly cost more than just about any other pen around... sure if writes beautifully.... but the downfall is that the refills are very expensive (AUD$10) each!

    So not only do I go through refills quickly - but they are too expensive to justify using it every day...

    Mac's are the opposite of this!
    Most of my Windoze machines and laptops have required money to be spent on them just to keep them going...

    Whether its hardware or software problems...
    They used to slow down alot - get bogged under with spywayre, malware, and proctection software (anti virus programs, firewalls, internet security)... the hardware inside needed updating more regularly it seems than mac based platforms, and then even when I had laptops - which was most of the time... I had to replace screens, casings, the works.

    Sure I'm only a new switcher, but most of the Mac people I know seem to keep their Mac's longer than most PC / Windoze laptop users, don't have anywhere near the hardware issues (and if they do have any hiccups - they are generally experienced soon after receiving it - so its covered under warranty).

    There was an article on the net I remember even suggesting that Mac's are good value for money - and in some cases comparable - and even cheaper to run in the long term than Windoze machines...

    Oh yeah another good reason - the Mac OS!
    Take you Dad into the shop and let him play with one!
    Even if he isn't a computer person (like my Dad) I was able to get him using my PB in about 10 mins! (not that I let anyone use my PB really though!!!
  4. Dr. Dastardly macrumors 65816

    Dr. Dastardly

    Jun 26, 2004
    I live in a giant bucket!
    You can always go here. This will give you alot of information and a good idea of the cost of ownership between both platforms. It's actually very informative.
  5. wPod macrumors 68000


    Aug 19, 2003
    Denver, CO
    more stable. less cost to upkeep. lasts longer. looks cooler :)
  6. jsw Moderator emeritus


    Mar 16, 2004
    Andover, MA
    An iBook with wireless included in the price is very cost-competitive with PCs. Also, the quality and durability of the iBook are phenomenal. And that's excluding the advantages and security of OS X vs XP.
  7. atif.muhammad thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2004
    none of your business
    yes but all of these features come at a price though.

    at the moment, i use linux and windows on a pc and if i got an iBook, i would happily ditch all the PCs'. I'll happily throw my current monitor down the stairs(its in my room, upstairs being used as a PC at the moment)
  8. pseudobrit macrumors 68040


    Jul 23, 2002
    Jobs' Spare Liver Jar
    Simply put, a typical Mac running OSX crashes less in its lifetime than some Windows PCs do in a day.
  9. Solafaa macrumors 6502a


    Jul 15, 2004
    Daddy said not to talk to strangers
    I think you should go to www.apple.com and click on the switch icon (top left area), there are lost of things you can learn.
  10. jsw Moderator emeritus


    Mar 16, 2004
    Andover, MA
    If you're looking at buying an iBook vs buying nothing, then, yes, of course it's expensive. But if you're looking at buying an iBook vs a similarly spec'd PC laptop, then the price premium is marginal, and, to get a PC laptop with similar size and quality of the iBook, you'd pay more.
  11. musicpyrite macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004
    Cape Cod
    I'd recommend going to an Apple store, and taking a look around, and playing with the iBooks for a while.

    And don't throw your monitor down the stairs, you can use it as a second display with your iBook. ;)
  12. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Also, if you really want an iBook that bad, make some money doing something in your area and show your dad you're serious about getting an iBook so you can say I earned x and now all I need is y, which is less than z (the price of an iBook - x):D

    Good luck,

  13. 7on macrumors 601


    Nov 9, 2003
    Dress Rosa
    But you can always hook that monitor to the iBook for better res on an external monitor.
  14. Rod Rod macrumors 68020

    Rod Rod

    Sep 21, 2003
    Las Vegas, NV
    just spec out a PC laptop wherever you like. configure and price it out at dell.com, hpshopping.com or anywhere else.

    make sure to put the following on it:
    1. XP Pro (because it's a bit more stable than XP Home and a better basis of comparison with OS X)
    2. wireless-G
    3. an office suite (MS Works or whatever else that isn't MS Office)
    4. basic photo editing and organizing software
    5. simple video editing software
    6. basic DVD authoring software
    7. loop-based music composition software
    8. built-in IEEE1394

    you get the idea... build it online so it's comparable to an iBook, and print out those specs and its price. now print out the iBook's specs and price. show this to your dad.

    if he says "what about the €500 PC laptop they're advertising in the newspaper," then you tell him about what that PC laptop lacks which makes it a poor comparison.

    if that fails, well just ask your dad to consider this your Eid gift. if that's not enough, well the second Eid is coming up in just a couple more months so maybe you could ask him to consider it a gift for both Eids.
  15. wwooden macrumors 68000


    Jul 26, 2004
    Burlington, VT

    There is the Educational discount which can take off a good percentage of the price(5%-10%), depending on the model you get.
  16. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Somebody please put this with the rest of atif.muhammad's threads...

    in the wasteland where it belongs. :p
  17. asphalt-proof macrumors 6502a

    Aug 15, 2003
    When you talk to your parents about the PC vs. Mac, ask them about their biggest gripes about Windows. chances are it will include worries about security, malware, spyware, possibly (if they are using older PC) BSODs, difficulty making it recognize preferals. etc... Then talk to them about the ease of use of the Mac, the lack of spyware/malware the whole "it just works" philosophy. I also like Mr. Anderson's idea about offering to pay the difference for the comp. Also showing the total package price may be helpful. Dollar for Dollar, the iBook is really hard to beat for the price.
  18. atomiton macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2004

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