Picture = 1000 words, 1hr Video = 15,400,000 words

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  1. Wardofsky macrumors 65816

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    Okay, here is my epic story (Soon to become a trilogy!).

    During class (Yeah I'm a kid (Just in case ya didn't know)) and our teacher gets annoyed with us.

    She tells us we have to do 30 minutes silent writing of whatever we want, she suggests a few things as well.

    The first thing she suggests is "Stream of concious thought". well, it's the start of school, in the morning, I'm not sure my concious is with me, but I choose it.

    I see a student walk by with a SLR (Probably a media student) and I start talking about taking photos adn all that stuff, I then get to "A picture equals 1000 words".

    That continues until I get to how many words there are in a 1 hour, 3D, 24fps film and work that out at 3.652264^21.

    What are peoples thoughts on the "Picture = 1000 words" thing and other things like what I did in class?
     
  2. Roger1 macrumors 65816

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    How much of this do you think your teacher understood?:D

    Oh, and how many words did you write?:D :D
     
  3. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Picture = ~1000 words

    Its all a matter of perception. Have you ever tried to come up with 1000 words to describe a picture? Some pics could easily be books and some a lot less.

    You would have a hard time coming up with 1000 words for the image below (but its possible, but only with a talent for words and a good imagination ;) ).

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  4. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Black, bleak, hopeless, dark... etc.
     
  5. idkew macrumors 68020

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    pixel 1,1 is black, square....

    pixel 1,2 is black, square, much like the pixel found a 1,1...


    1,000 words would be a piece of cake, but boring as hell.
     
  6. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    that's the typical way of seeing it though...

    I could easily come up with 1,000 words from that image the duke posted...

    it's true...it's all about the perception...and how u think... ;)
     
  7. Sol macrumors 68000

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    Depends on the film

    I would say that the more a picture leaves to the imagination, the more words you can use to describe it. Maybe 1000 is a little short for some pictures.

    As for video, one thing you have to consider is how many and what type of shots the film contains. I remember watching an Argentinean film that was basically one static shot into a student's appartment (and by the way, it was not a porno). Now that I think of it, I would only need one word to describe that: boring.
     
  8. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    ha ha...I'm thinking we should have a contest of sorts...

    "What does this black box mean to u?" ;)
     
  9. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Ha, great idea - but again, its all on how you present it. Coming up with 1000 words isn't all that tough, but captivating the reader long enough for them to finish it or even enjoy it requires a bit of talent and perception outside the black box....

    D
     
  10. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    well I feel if a person feels deeply enough about anything...they can capture anyone's attention...

    as for the black box...I could go on for days...

    whether or not some view it as interesting...well that's another story... ;)
     
  11. scem0 macrumors 604

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    I hope this hasen't been said. But A 1 Hr video of blackness
    wont make any more 'words' than a picture of blackness would.
    Technically they are the same thing, but w/e.
     
  12. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    oh, come on, you couldn't come up with something interesting in 1000 words for that pic? It would be rather simple, actually.

    D :D
     
  13. etoiles macrumors 6502a

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    1hr Video=15,400,000 words ?

    am I missing something, or is:
    24fps x 60secs x 60minutes x 1000words

    more like 86,400,000 words ?:D
     
  14. Wardofsky thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Where does the "Picture - 1000 words" come from?

    Also, the equation for 3D film is:

    (60X60X24X1000) ^3
    (Minutes)X(Seconds)X(Frame Rate)^ (Dimensions)

    It equals 3,652,264,000,000,000,000,000 or 3.652264^21.
     
  15. Wardofsky thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Oh yeah, whoops, sorry.
    I rest my case higher up the hill.
     
  16. etoiles macrumors 6502a

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    no worries...it happens to the best of us :D (it usually happens to me)

    Anyway, what is this 3D film ? Is this for real or some hypothetic technology ?

    I have heard of some 'holographic memory', but I don't think it ads another full depth of storage. It just ads a couple of layers to store more data.

    In which case the 'theoretical' number of images would still only be 24x60x60x(number of layers)
    BUT: it is also important to understand that if you watch a 1h movie at 24fps, it wont matter how many dimensions there are as you can only see two images at a time, wich makes 24x60x60x2=172800 the maximum number of images you could see in an hour (from that movie/3D simulation, not counting mental images, images from other sources etc.) :D
    That is per session, of course. Watching a '3D movie' a second time with different angles would be like watching a totally new movie (well, yes, theoretically)

    I am going to sleep now, wonder how many words I am going to dream...one sheep, two sheepzzzzzzzzzzzz ;)
     
  17. G4scott macrumors 68020

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    That black box somehow just reminded me of a close-up of a charcoal briquette... I'ts probably since it's 1:45 AM...

    hmm... All of this stuff is making me think too much. I should really be getting some sleep, but my new 12" PowerBook just won't let me leave it alone... I think I need help- I'm in love with a computer :)eek: not like that sikos :p )

    I guess in another way, that black box could represent my pocket, and it's similarity to a black hole when money appears... Man, I need some sleep desperatly...
     
  18. Wardofsky thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Heh,you talk funny like.

    Nah, I just did the whole 1hr 24fps film X 1000 and cubed it for the dimensions, probably not accurate but none the less.

    It was a english thing anyway.
     
  19. Macette macrumors 6502

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    many hundreds of thousands of words have been written about this image - and it's not much of an advance on dukestreet's black square (but I love it!)

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  20. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    the point of my saying that was more for others who don't see things in such an...abstract way...

    interestingly enough...last night I came upon a theory as to why one particular style of pottery was more "masculine" than another simply by it's shape...

    don't ask... ;)
     
  21. idkew macrumors 68020

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    that one i could talk a lot about... i can easily see that as art. i not much of a formalist, but i can respect that theory.

    the black rectangle i do not consider as formalism, that is why i can't write less literally about it. it doesn't have enough interaction for me.
     
  22. idkew macrumors 68020

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    look into some ancient greek pottery. many a kylix is extremely masculine.

    oh- tv is 2-d, not 3-d, just as a painting is a 2 d representation of 3d's. not to mention, you are seeing an artificial image, so there is much less image transfer and processing going on than if you were viewing it in person.
     
  23. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    yeah I'm with u on that...

    seems to be a primary theme of stability...whether it be feet of sort to support or handles to grab...

    nice stuff though... ;)
     
  24. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    There both equally capable of being described in as many words required. You're missing the point, though. Its not about the picture and its 'artistic' inpression - its about how you choose to view it. Its all about perception.

    Look at the black square and try of think of one way it could be represented as much more than it is. You don't need complexity to create more words on the page, you just need to look at it from a differeng angle. :D

    D
     
  25. idkew macrumors 68020

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    I get what you are saying, I just refuse to think of it abstractly, and only will do it literally. I guess I am crazy, what can i say?
     

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