Pioneer upgrade issue...

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by dex22, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. dex22 macrumors regular

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    I just replaced my Pioneer DVR-104 with a new Pioneer DVR-111D. My old drive works great but, after a firmware upgrade a couple of years ago, it was limited to 1X for DVD burning.

    The new drive works fine, and burns and reads everything I want, but it still shows up in Toast as limited to 1X in the burn window drop down menu.

    Did I miss something?
     
  2. Sped macrumors regular

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    Wirelessly posted (MOT-RAZRV3xx/96.71.95R BER2.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; 11063081) Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Opera 8.00 [en] UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

    You should try Patch Burn. Its allows your to modify how the Mac sees the drive's properties.
     
  3. dex22 thread starter macrumors regular

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    OS X sees the drive correctly, as a 16x drive with dual layer support. I tried patchburn but it didn't make any difference.

    I went and bought some new 16x DVD-R blanks, and now Toast happily burns at the claimed 16x - although the seconds count down veeery slooowly, so the former 45 minute burn is now a 4 minute burn that actually takes 8 minutes.

    I'm going to experiment some more, and see if I can find anything else out about this...

    I'd welcome any other ideas/experiments/suggestions from people.
     
  4. hondak24 macrumors newbie

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    Burning at 8X takes about 8 mintues.
    Does your Pioneer 111D show up as Superdrive?
     
  5. dex22 thread starter macrumors regular

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    It seems to claim it's burning at 16x but actually burns at 8x, with the Toast counter showing the time for a 16x burn, but each second tick taking 2 seconds to happen.

    OS X (10.4.8) and Toast report the drive as "Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-111D" and the system profiler reports:

    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D:

    Firmware Revision: 1.23
    Interconnect: ATAPI
    Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported)
    Profile Path: None
    Cache: 2000 KB
    Reads DVD: Yes
    CD-Write: -R, -RW
    DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
    Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
    Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
    Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
    Media: No
     
  6. hondak24 macrumors newbie

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    I think the problem is with the older IDE hardware, which would only allow transfer rate capable of 8X burn.
     
  7. dex22 thread starter macrumors regular

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    The onboard ATA bus is ATA-100, and it does the same thing plugged into my ATA-133 RAID card. ATA-100 can easy support 60MB/sec - how much bandwidth does a 16x burner use?

    Meanwhile, I'm happily using the burner as an 8x burner :)
     
  8. LeeTom macrumors 68000

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    Have you tried using Disk Utility to burn a disk? That way you can see if it's a Toast-specific problem.
     
  9. hondak24 macrumors newbie

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    I assumed you have older IDE hardware because of the age of Pioneer 104. Your bandwidth should support 16X speed burning, provided your harddrive is fast enough too.
     

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