Police kill man with Down syndrome

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    Back in January, Robert “Ethan” Saylor, a 26 year old man with Down syndrome was killed by police officers over a movie ticket. Today, he's dead while the officers are still on the job.


    Alternet - Killed by Cops Over a Movie Ticket: How Police Hurt the Disabled


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    So it's come to this? The police state and the mentality of "shoot first, ask questions later" has gotten so bad that those with mental disabilities are killed an nothing is done about it?

    I realize this may not be anything new but how can those wearing a badge be trusted to protect the public when their first thought is to "shoot first"?
     
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    That's just a sad story in general
     
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    Did they shoot the guy?
     
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    Very sad news to read, for all concerned. I think it should be kept in mind that some people with Down's are prone to violent outbursts and are not weak. Still, it would be foolish for police to expect the same level of comprehension and compliance from somebody who has Down's as that from a neurotypical person.
     
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    rdowns

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    Nope, he died of asphyxiation. While this is tragic, they chose to use other than guns in their application of force. Sadly, similar results.
     
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    He had in IQ of 40, I have a feeling he just didn't understand rapid fire cop speak.
     
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    From Huffington Post:

    Which part of this story indicates "shoot first, ask questions later?"
     
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    Just like the article mentioned and also judging from the picture ....... It's impossible not to know this person had down syndrome, and the police not treating the situation as such is just 100% abuse.
     
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    Maybe it is just early in the morning, but your post makes no sense.:confused:
     
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    As per the norm.
     
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    Correction .. It's NOT possible.
     
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    You looked at the guys picture and thought its possible not to know they had down syndrome??

    I think it pretty obvious.
     
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    Easy this might not play into the loaded thread title, and the shoot first content of the first post.
     
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    IT'S A FREAKING TYPO!!!! You couldn't figure that out?
     
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    Relax, now we know. :cool:
     
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    Just checking to make sure what you really meant. No need to get your shorts all up in a bunch.:rolleyes:
     
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    I wasn't replying to you. :cool:
     
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    Not quite a simply typo. One means one thing the other means something different.
     
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    So you really thought I stated it's 100% abuse cause it's "possible" not to tell down syndrome? Really?
     
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    Didi you even read the actual news about how he died :rolleyes:

    For anyone that actually read the news, I don't blame the cops since no signs of abuse was done and they tried to help when he was in distress.

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    http://www.alternet.org/killed-cops...t-disabled?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

    Sounds like abuse to me. The caregiver even warned the cops. From the pic, he didn't seem like a small person. I can only imagine the amount of force used.
     
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    How does taking someone down to the ground sound like abuse? They did not beat him, in fact they used several sets of hand cuffs to ensure he was not in a position that was too constricting and harmful to his upper body.
     
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    They had to subdue him and prob performed it by the book/ how they were taught to do so. It's a shame he died, but you can't blame them if they were following taught procedures.
     
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    Then explain how he died of asphyxiation with damage to his larynx?

    I bet one of the cops had his knee or elbow on the guy's neck using way to much force.

    Funny how in sitituations where a taser would work best, they don't use it.
     
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    It sure is an interesting juxtaposition to see your attitude in the motorcycle thread compared to it in this thread.
     

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