Post your PowerPC SSD Drive model!

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by prvt.donut, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. prvt.donut, Nov 29, 2012
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2012

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    prvt.donut

    #1
    Well, it is nearly the end of 2012 and 2013 will be the year that the SSD drive takes over as the normal choice for personal computer data storage. There is a vast array of models and options available, and models that should work, sometimes don't as I discovered with my Powermac G5 and a Corsair Force GT.

    I thought it is about time we made a list of the SSD drives that will work well in our respective PowerPC Macs (and those that don't). Please try to keep a similar format as shown below:

    Computer Model:

    SSD Model name:

    Part number:

    Working?

    Benchmark results:

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    I'll go first!!!!!!:rolleyes:

    Computer Model: Late 2005 Powermac G5 dual core 2.0GHz

    SSD Model name: Corsair Force GT 240GB

    Part number: CSSD-F240GBGT-BK

    Working? As a second drive in bottom slot. Will install OS, but won't boot. :( In the top slot, it doesn't show up as a drive to install the OS on.

    Benchmark results: N/A:mad::mad:
     
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    justperry

    #2
    What's the point of having an SSD in a PATA PPC?

    I have a powerbook G4 1.67, PATA inside, yes, it will make a difference but I don't see the point of spending that money for just a little gain in speed.

    Edit, but if there are any SATA PPC macs then yes I can understand.
     
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    prvt.donut

    #3
    Not all PPC use PATA. Besides, it's the random read/write speeds that make them fabulous for OS drives. :D
     
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    GermanyChris

    #4
    My quad had both a Vertex 2 and an Agility 3 in the top bay
     
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    #5
    I use OWC Mercury SSD's as boot drives in both my PPC computers, an upgraded G4 Cube and My go-to system, a G5 quad.
    Both have worked well for some time now.
     
  6. macrumors member

    #6
    I use an OWC Legacy SSD for a Titanium PB G4 (1GHz, last model to boot Mac OS 9).

    Use it for Mac OS 9 mainly, with Mac OS X 10.5 as an emergency OS (that is terribly slow, I think I'd rather run Mac OS X 10.2 just for nostalgia...).

    Mac OS 9 on an SSD, on a 1GHz laptop, is pretty great. No problems and runs for weeks straight without reboots in a clamshell mode (screen shut and external display and keyboard/mouse) so I'm quite happy.

    Just have to make sure to get a 120GB or smaller drive as I'm pretty certain Mac OS 9 can't boot on bigger drives (and some Macs pre-2001 are not 128GB+ native without third party software).

    Makes me kind of wonder what a Firewire 400 enclosure with an SSD would bench, and if it'd be faster than my NAS for the PowerBook.
     
  7. macrumors newbie

    #7
    Powerbook G4 1,5 Ghz 12"

    SuperTalent Duradrive ET2 128 GB PATA 2,5"

    Works great. Boot-time and Applaunching feels halved. Lagfree UI, no spin-up lags, 10-15% longer battery-life. But best of all: SILENCE. PB is running cooler, fan spin-up is very rare. Best upgrade for a old PB in my opinion.

    Code:
    	Disk Test	90.73	
    		Sequential	136.10	
    			Uncached Write	136.50	83.81 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Write	142.61	80.69 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	109.15	31.94 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	169.78	85.33 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    		Random	68.04	
    			Uncached Write	28.95	3.06 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Write	47.73	15.28 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	1651.99	11.71 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	371.64	68.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
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    seveej

    #8
    IMHO, the answers say it all.
    Admittedly, an SSD is not as snappy if you do not have a SATA III interface to plug it into, but max throughput is not the only advantage of an SSD.

    Nevertheless, there are some problems with some PATA SSD's especially the no-name products coming out of the PRC. Again, going for a brand name product solves this.

    Personally i think a SSD is the best upgrade for a PPC G4 laptop used mainly for internet/mail/office apps. A friend of mine commented that his 12" PBG4 (with SSD) felt all-round snappier than a 1st generation 13" MBP (sans SSD).

    RGDS,
     
  9. macrumors regular

    #9
    PowerMac G5 2x2 GHz

    OWC 3G 240 GB SSD in an ACARD SATA/IDE sled

    Xbench disk test: 240

    Cube with upgraded processor

    OWC 3G 120 GB SSD

    Xbench disk test: 170

    The improvement over a 7200 RPM drive in the Cube is less noticeable than in the G5, obviously since the G5 is using SATA and the Cube is SATA/IDE interface.
     
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    prvt.donut

    #10
    How about this SATA2 model?

    CORSAIR FORCE SERIES F240 240GB 2.5" SATA INTERNAL SSD CSSD-F240GB2
     
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    ChrisMan287

    #12
    I wish I could afford an OWC Legacy :(
     
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    MisterKeeks

    #13
    All G5s have SATA.
     
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    justperry

    #14
    Yeah, I am aware of this, but there were more PATA than SATA PPC's.

    My machine (PB G4 1.67) would probably get a bit faster but I am not going to spend the money on a machine which could be dead tomorrown and the gain is minimal.
     
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    666sheep

    #15
    Transcend 32GB PATA SSD in my Clamshell. Still works well after 2 years without TRIM.
     
  16. macrumors 6502a

    #16
    what does numbers mean?
    Any chance of mb/s numbers?
    What ACARD do you have?
     
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    seveej

    #17
    64 GB Transcend SSD in PB G4 12" (1,5 Ghz).
    This is a machine, which in a short while will become an elderly lady's (my m-i-l) first personal computer.

    In this case the promise of higher speed of the SSD (vs. HDD) was not the clinching argument, but in stead the rationale was silence. And boy - until the fans spin up, this machine is dead silent.

    I did not go through the trouble of benchmarking, but startup (power button->desktop) is 22 seconds (was 38 s), duplicating a 1 GB file is about 50% faster and it seems (based on a few days of use), that there is no perceived "load lag" (meaning that the machine is slow because the CPU is what it is).

    RGDS,
     
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    Intell

    #18
    While not a true SSD, 16GB Transcend CompactFlash card with EIDE adapter in my G3 iMac. Works very well and it maxes out the ATA/33 bus with easy.
     
  19. macrumors 6502a

    #19
    I have a Crucial v4 in my iMac G5. Might consider throwing something similar into my G4 and G3 iMacs as well my eMac G4.
     
  20. macrumors 6502a

    #20
    it was very cool if guys with the ssds could bench it with xbench (you only need to run the disk test) and post here a screenshot.
    Here is "mine":

    Samsung 830 256Gb
    [​IMG]

    Maybe it is not 100% accurate because the HDD was not all formated for Mac.
    It was formated for windows, with one windows partition (ntfs) and then a HFS+ partition.
    This was on a Sonnet Tempo PCI 2 Port sata card.
    Firmware 5.1.3
     
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    ybz90

    #21
    I just bought a Kingspec 32GB PATA drive on eBay. I've read some rather nasty things about them, but they seem mostly related to the rather horrid first-generation JMicron controller.

    Current ones to my knowledge use some controller by Silicon Motion. Details were also hard to come by, but I believe it is a direct PATA controller (vs most PATA drives, which are actually SATA but have a PATA-SATA bridge inside, thereby drawing more power).

    I can post some impressions when I receive it and set up the system that I am restoring.
     
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    MisterKeeks

    #22
    XBench is useless for most everything, including HDD speed tests. There is a better app, but I can't remember it now.
     
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    Intell

    #23
    XBench's HDD tests are still rather accurate. Of course they should be preformed a few times and averaged, but the process of averaging benchmarks for any benchmarking application should always be done for best results.
     
  24. macrumors 6502a

    #24
    AJA Speed test?
    I guess benchmark programs are +- all the same, the results won't vary very much I guess, simply ones give more options than others.
     
  25. macrumors 6502a

    #25
    There was a user with one of those here and results were not bad.
    This week I will get a OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb for my PowerMac G4.It already comes with latest firmware (1.37) so I guess I won't have problems.
    When I receive it I will bench it.
    In my opinion for PATA computers I guess the CF Card way can sometimes be a little better, for example, if you buy a 16Gb 600x CF card for the same price of a 16Gb PATA SSD, at least you know that the memory on the CF has to do 90MB/s (of course it will be limited by the adapter/IDE BUS).


    Another option for benchmarking is this:
    http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120704113548693

    Are there any tips for SSD in 10.4/10.5?
     

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