Problem getting Mail to work Hot Mail

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  1. musicpyrite macrumors 68000

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    I've already checked the forums and can't find my answer.

    OK, so here's the problem:

    I've use Yahoo for a while and I get sick of getting emails for 'male enhansment,' so I've decided to try Mail. I know you can't use the free Yahoo account with Mail, so I signed up for a Hotmail account(I've already got the hacks to make Hotmail work). I've made an account name and password and all that stuff. I enter my account name and everything, so far everything is going good. I quit Mail, realaunch it, select my inbox, but right next to it is a sign that looks like a yield sign (see pic). I click on it and get the error:

    The server error encountered was: The server “musicpyrite89^hotmail.com” cannot be contacted on port 548.

    This sucks, ok, so I open up the prefernces and click account. Then I got to the tab that says 'advanced' and I try changing the port(see other pic) like a dozen times, and it still doesn't work. :mad:

    So what should I do? Can somebody check and see what port your using? Or is there something else wrong?
     

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  2. HexMonkey Administrator

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    I'm assuming you're using the httpmail plugin? If so, then it looks like you've got the wrong account type set (the Advanced section shouldn't look like that). Recreate the account, and set the account type to httpmail.

    Then fill out the other fields in the Account Information tab. For incoming mail server, type 'hotmail.com', and you can leave the Outgoing Mail Server as none.
     
  3. musicpyrite thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I do have the httpmail plugin, and I think I know what you ment by recreating the account, but what the heck does it mean when you say "The Advanced section souldn't look like that."
     
  4. jimsowden macrumors 68000

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    soudln't the server your using be something like mail.hotmail.com, not your e-mail address? I know hotmail doesn't allow direct access to their pop server so I doubt they create an server address one for each account. Ports are usually 110 on receiving.
     
  5. HexMonkey Administrator

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    Different account types have different options in the Advanced section. So, since the httpmail account type has different options, the interface of the Advanced section is different. The screenshot looks like the Advanced section of an IMAP account, not an httpmail account. Sorry for not making that clear.
     
  6. musicpyrite thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Ok, I know how to set up the Mail account, now I have a different problem, when ever I start Mail, the account longs onto the previous account that I had (the one that didn't work). No problem, I'll just go to the system prefs, delete that account and make a new one. Well every time I do that, Mail crashes and I send one of those 'bug reports to Apple.' So what I did was delete the Mail app, and downloaded a new Mail app. But when I start that new Mail app, it logs onto the account that I used to have and the one that I don't want.
    So what I'm saying is, is there anyway to totally delete Mail and all its info(like in the folder library, systems, etc.)?

    Edit: HexMonkey, congrads on almost getting your avatar, only a few more posts to go! :D ;) :)
     
  7. HexMonkey Administrator

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    In general reinstalling an application rarely helps, since it's settings are usually the source of problems, and they are not affected by reinstalling.

    Mail has the following files in your user's library:

    ~/Library/Mail/ - Contains account settings, mailboxes, signatures etc. So if you delete this, you'll lose all your mail etc. Also note that this folder contains the httpmail plugin (~Library/Mail/Bundles/httpmail/httpmail_panther.mailbundle), so you'll have to reinstall it if you move/delete this folder.
    ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist - Preferences file, containing view options etc.
    ~/Library/Caches/Mail/

    Try moving each of them them, and seeing if that will solve the problem. If not, then you can move them back.
     
  8. musicpyrite thread starter macrumors 68000

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    HexMonkey: I moved all the folders you said to, but now when I try to connect, I get the yeild sign again(see pic).It says this:
    Could not connect to 'musicpyrite89_hotmail.com'
    Service Unavailable
    I'll include a pic of the account information, in the prefrences. Mabey you can tell me if I entered something wrong.

    Note: I did reinstall the hot mail plugin, and I did check the box that says 'enable this account' under the advanced in the prefrences.
     

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  9. musicpyrite thread starter macrumors 68000

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    OK, I've been messing with the settings, I know what I messd up on, the user name was suppost to be my email address. Thanks for all the help HexMonkey. :)
     
  10. RHutch macrumors 6502

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    It is not true that you can't use the free Yahoo account with Mail. I know of at least two ways to do so. You can download YahooPops, which will allow you to retrieve your messages from your Yahoo account using Mail. This one requires compiling and it quit functioning for me properly after a while.

    There is also a java-based solution. It is what I currently use. No compiling necessary. It has modules for Yahoo and Hotmail and maybe others; since I only use Yahoo, I don't know about others for sure. I don't remember the name and I'm not at my home computer, so I can't check. I'm sure you would find it if you did a search on Google. This one was very easy to set up.
     
  11. MictXP macrumors newbie

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    That java based solution sound interesting. I've searched google a little and couldn't find it. Could you post the name later on?
     
  12. musicpyrite thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I have searched Google, and I also can't find it.
     
  13. RHutch macrumors 6502

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    Here is the link

    http://mrpostman.sourceforge.net/


    Some things I have noticed when using this are:

    1) It will only get unread messages.
    2) Be careful of how many messages you get from Yahoo at one time. I think Yahoo limits your bandwith. If you exceed it in the middle of a transfer, blank messages will be stored in your Mail mailbox. The messages that were affected won't be "seen" by the java app the next time because they won't be "new".

    But I do like it, and it has allowed me to use the free Yahoo account and to be able to keep as many messages as I like by transferring them to my hard drive.

    Let me know what you think.
     

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