Putin pushing to eliminate direct elections

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  1. Durandal7 macrumors 68040

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    Vladimir Putin has eliminated gubernatorial elections and is pushing to eliminate direct elections to the Duma (legislature) in the name of "strengthening the state."

    What a guy.

    From the Moscow Times
    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/01/12/001.html
     
  2. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    If we have a new real "Cold War," will Bush stop invading things with the lacklustre stand-in "War on Terror?"
     
  3. Thanatoast macrumors 6502a

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    The only difference between Bush and Putin is that where Putin is ex-KGB, Bush is ex-frat boy.

    They're ideological partners, both aiming for the same target - increased power for themselves and their cronies, zero oversight from anyone, and populations too scared to stand up to them.
     
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    Shhh, don't tell Bush. You'll give him ideas. :p
     
  5. takao macrumors 68040

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    that and putin having a black belt in judo ;)

    here the difference is: in russia this is nothing new ...
     
  6. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    You know all those self-congratulatory declarations that we defeated our old Cold War enemy? Starting to look like those declarations were premature, doesn't it?
     
  7. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    I don't understand why you would think that an authoritarian Russia would necessarily be a US enemy. Democracies are sticky business for foreign affairs. Authoritarian regimes are much more corruptable and controlable.
     
  8. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Russia is turning into something else, not a democracy and these things Putin is doing is setting up easy pickings for a dictatorship or whatever you want to call it. Not good for the people of russia or its neighbors. This is why every nation that could get out of the old soviet union did as soon as they could. This is more of the same from the communist without the title. The people learned little in the years of occupation by their own govt and setting up another form of corrupt rule govt shows how little the people of russia learned from years of tyranny,abuse,corruption etc. Who does the State answer to??????No One. Not even the people.
     
  9. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Perhaps I stated that badly. Not necessarily an enemy, no, but he seems to be increasingly distancing Russia from the West, sort of defining us as opposite "sides" at the same time he's grabbing more power. It's not a return to the bad old Soviet Union days, but it's certainly a couple of steps in that direction, and reminiscent of Soviet thinking.
     
  10. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    I think Putin is playing a delicate game. He's trying to use nationalism, fear, and the failures of the Yeltsin era at home to consolidate power while using Islamic terrorism to ally ideologically with the West internationally. The mix is too complex for his strategy though, because the West finds his actions towards Western and Western-oriented business interests an anathma, but to maintain his power base at home (the kind of old-guard folks who didn't gain much ground during the Yeltsin era) he needs to strip people like Khodorkovsy of power. Putin is definitely erring on the side of domestic rather than international support, which is probably the right move for him personally. Sucks for a lot of Russians though.
     

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