PWNED by Apple?

Discussion in 'iMac' started by macjonny1, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. macjonny1 macrumors 6502a

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    An early apology for the silly title. But the real question is why do we put up with Apple's schedule for updating products? Of course we have to, that's the answer.

    Take the mini for example...how many other companies could release a computer and not give it any significant updates (9/06 doesn't count) for over a year? The mac pro is in the same case as it has for years (it's cool, but getting old). The iMac still looks the same as the G5 imac released years ago, with very little change. The ipods are the same, relatively, as they have been since fall 2005! It seems like the significant updates are getting fewer and further between.

    I was just thinking this over and wondering how apple is allowing their linup to stagnate.
     
  2. BoyBach macrumors 68040

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    Why change an iconic/classic design for the sake of change?
     
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    Really!

    Guess the OP wasn't around in the early days...
     
  5. iMeowbot macrumors G3

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    The Apple II looked pretty much the same for 18 years. Come back if we're getting close to that again.
     
  6. someguy macrumors 68020

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    I hate threads like this.

    I don't care if Apple doesn't change a damn thing for 10 years. No updates, nothing. I don't care if Leopard is never released.

    People like you (OP) are impossible to please. Something new comes out, and you love it for a day, then come the complaints. Never satisfied.

    I've had my PowerBook G4 for almost 2 years and I still love it. I wouldn't change it or trade it for a MacBook Pro, necessarily.

    No own is being "pwnt" by Apple. As a matter of fact, they take better care of their customers than any company, in any industry, than I have ever seen in my life. Ironically, their customers are the most spoiled, most difficult to please group of people I have ever known (not everyone of them, you know who you are).
     
  7. Lancetx macrumors 68000

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    Why change a winner? The design of Apple's current desktops, notebooks and iPods are the best in the industry. They don't need to change case designs or whatever every 6 months.

    As for internal updates, Apple's current desktops and notebooks are on par with what everyone else has currently. Their notebooks and the iMacs are all Intel C2D and have been since early November. The Mac mini is nothing more than a low cost entry level system, but I'm sure it will be upgraded from the Core Duo to the C2D soon enough.

    So I'm not really sure where you're coming from. They don't need change just for change sake. Apple seems to be doing pretty well these days with how they're doing things.
     
  8. macjonny1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    "Someguy" if you don't like threads like this than don't click that mouse. I am not impossible to please, it is just a question. I think the designs are great. If you are happy with everything, then good for you. This whole website is about what apple is doing next, and this is a discussion about what apple is doing next.

    If you look at any other manufacturer of computers, their specs are changed on a pretty frequent basis. Even if you don't change the case, then get up to date with the processors at least. Maybe you got a little grumpy waiting for your G5 powerbook!
     
  9. supermario19 macrumors member

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    You mentioned iPods, are you forgetting the new shuffles, and the new nano's? That was all within the last year (don't have the exact dates) but thats definetly an update.
    But you are right, I would like a new iMac design to go along with leopard.
    mmmm, leopard
     
  10. someguy macrumors 68020

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    The designs are great, yet you are unhappy with the fact that they haven't been changed? :rolleyes:

    Instead of whining about how Apple is forcing us to "put up with" their schedule for updating products, why don't you tell us just what you think should be changed and how your changes would make the product better?

    Or better yet, tell Apple about your ideas. They are the ones who can actually do something with them.
     
  11. macjonny1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yep you are right, I forgot about the other ipods. I have a nano and a 5g ipod, and am happy with those. Actually, maybe they shouldn't update them that way whatever I get I'll be happy that it doesn't get replaced with something better! :rolleyes:

    The one I'd really like to get updated with is the mini. And, since you asked, here is my idea:

    -HDMI output
    -an option for a graphics card, happy to pay for it, yes the integrated one is fine for most ppl but a higher cost option would sell great IMHO if it had one. Maybe the upcoming intel one would be fine (x3000).

    Basically, I would like a true appleTV substitute that could allow me to surf the internet on the TV and do more than extending my itunes. One that would allow me to play some amount of games.
     
  12. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

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    Change for the sake of change is pointless. The high rate of technological progress has inflicted that disease in a lot of people though. ;) They get jittery if something stays the same for a few months. I wonder how they'd fare if sent back in time a millennia or two ago, when typically nothing much changed for hundreds of years....

    --Eric
     
  13. iW00t macrumors 68040

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    Oh that is easy.

    Have infinitely more BTO options. Why are Mac Pros all Quad currently? Dell has been shipping Octo core machines since November! Why does a Mac Mini need a 1.83Ghz processor to receive a SuperDrive? I want a SuperDrive with a Core Solo 1.5 if I feel like it fits me budget more. Why are all Macs limited to a single resolution? Well since Apple choose to put in the screen nobody requested for the piss poor resolutions that Apple offers.

    Apple may be in it for the whole experience, but count me out. I prefer to customise my own experience. And I believe I know what I want better.

    It is one thing to be defensive of Apple, but admit it or not, their practices do leave much to be desired. If anything Macs still come across to me as machines tailored for people who needs to be told what they want, and that whole "Think Different" marketing campaign is an outright blatant lie that flies in face of all truth and reason.
     
  14. BoyBach macrumors 68040

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    I definitely agree with you. There should be a 'super-budget' Mac Mini for people who only need a Mac for 'basic' computing.
     
  15. zap2 macrumors 604

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    1) The Mac Pro is aging, but it was a beast when it first came out, and still is a very very good computer.

    2) The Mac Mini is getting old, and Apple should upgrade it. But the all Core Duo upgrade was big for the Core Solo Mac Mini. They should drop the price also.

    3) The iPod 5.5G could use an upgrade, but the Nano and Shuffle are fine
     
  16. Lancetx macrumors 68000

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    Aside from the Mac mini (which as I mentioned before is a low cost entry level machine), what Apple systems aren't up to date with their processors? The MB, MBP and iMac are all certainly up to date.
     
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    I find the constant changes by other companies really annoying.

    The thing is that Apple makes a great product the first time and does not need to follow the rest of the computer market by releasing something with only slight modifications every other minute
     
  19. macjonny1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well, I think that sums it all up! :p That is a perfect analogy, answers all my questions, and I can sleep well tonight. Why mess with perfection?
     
  20. supermario19 macrumors member

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    I definetely agree witht the part about being more customizeable. I would love to get a 24 inch imac, but with a lower processor so its a bit cheaper, and still get the dvd burner.
     
  21. zea mays macrumors 6502

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    I have an iMac G5 Rev A and it was one of the first shipped. People STILL, over two years later, marvel at it. Seriously, joe schmoe doesn't even know it exists let alone that it's an 'old' design. I can't count the number of times I've gotten 'is that *really* the whole computer?!?'. So maybe it's outdated to those of us in the know, but that doesn't take away it's awe factor.
     
  22. Airship macrumors newbie

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    Jonathan Ive is probably bawling into his hands at this thread
     
  23. JAT macrumors 603

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    The Mini sucks. Until it has a built-in juicer, I just won't be happy. Ooh, and a bicycle pump. I mean, come on Apple!! Catch up!
     
  24. BlackMax macrumors 6502a

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    Apple's Mac designs (MacPro, iMac, MBP, MP, Mac Mini) are great. Find me another workstation, desktop or notebook design in the industry that can touch them. If they do make changes they should be incremental and not sweeping changes. Better yet, just keep updating the internals and add more options.
     
  25. queshy macrumors 68040

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    Having just bought a new iMac, it would make me feel pretty crappy if they changed the machine so radically...but that's besides the point. The 5.5 G iPod is aging, as is the mac pro and the mac mini. The design though (with the exception of hte iPod), is still good imo. But dont worry change will come...it always does. I wouldn't be surprised if by this time this year every single computer apple made had some serious design change.
     

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