hi guys. i got some youth groups and church groups (and small companies) that they obviously need a new website. i mean sites still with blinking gifs, banners and the sites just don't look modern anymore. obviously updating the website would cost money and how could one convince them, that it is needed? how could one convince them, that the investment is worth it? how could i convince them that they need to revamp the site? eg. the church group doesn't have that much money. would it be a good thing to ask the designer to create the groundwork (say the start page) and just change sections of the site, when the group is able to pay the designer(again)? thanks for any info.