Quark, Tiger, and .ps files- Blue Velvet?

Discussion in 'Design and Graphics' started by decksnap, Jan 13, 2006.

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    decksnap

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    Just switched over to a new Dually, and with it, Tiger. Now in Quark, when I go to print a postscript file to use in distiller, the option to do this is gone. (The 'ouput options' choice in the drop-down list is no longer there.) There is now a 'save PDF as postscript file' option under the PDF button that I never used to use, but this doesn't appear to even function. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Quark 6.0, 10.4.3)
     
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    Can you select Adobe PDF as a PPD in the Setup tab of the print box?
    Can you select Adobe PDF in the printer and page set-up options (bottom left buttons).

    We're still running Panther at the office, which is where I am now. I recommend upgrading to Quark 6.5, it's free and fixes a number of issues.

    We only create our PDFs by printing to .ps to Distiller watched folders through the print box.
     
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    Does Adobe PDF turn up in the PPD manager?
     
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    As far as I can tell, no, no, and no. Interesting that I don't have that there. So the Adobe PDF printer is what would add the 'output options' to my list? Any idea how I can get that added?
     
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    By installing Acrobat Pro with Distiller or prob. Illustrator CS1 or 2 with the relevant extras.
     
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    Thanks. I have all that installed. I will check to see if I missed it under the extras /custom install somewhere. Unfortunately can't get to it now. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
     
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    Is Adobe PDF in the Printers folder in Library in your home folder?

    Is 'Adobe PDF' anywhere?
     
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    Nope. Boy, Spotlight is really a pain sopmetimes. It gave me like 3000 results to wade through, but nothing with that name specifically.
     
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    (Your HD):Library:printers:pPDs:Contents:Resources:en.lproj:ADPDF6.PPD

    ADPDF6.PPD

    Is this file anywhere?
     
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    decksnap

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    No to that either. I guess I'll be checking the disks.
     
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    I'm running Tiger with Quark 6.5. I just got a Quad so Tiger is new for me but everything looks the same in Quark as it did in 10.3. The only PDF issue with Tiger is that screenshots are no longer PDFs. I got shotChoice to change it back to PDFs but they are coming out 5 to 10x the file size they should be so I switched it to jpegs.
     
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    http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/328645.html


    http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=3180

    Also:
    http://software-robotics.com/db_user_forums/viewtopic.php?t=189
     
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    Interesting timing. I JUST got around to pulling out the CS disks. This file Didn't even exist because I've yet to launch Acrobat. I launched it and voila- there's AdobePDF in my Application Support folder, and now in my printer list. Thanks a million.

    Interesting though (and I assume this is just Tiger), look at this screen grab. The drop down is now the place to select the postscript option, while it used to be under 'Copies and Pages' as 'Output Options>postscript'. I hope it is still doing it the same way under the hood.

    Hmmm. thinking about it, I used to be able to have ANY printer selected and make a postscript. Now I have to have Adobe PDF defined as my printer. Still confused. :confused:

    Thanks for all your help.

    Decksnap
     

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    After much experimentation and some research, we use the Pass4Press specs which are based around PDFX1a. With QuarkXpress 6.x we also stick to their recommended method of producing CMYK PDFs — at first slightly awkward but practice and presets makes it simple. Perfect results every time without fail.

    Download this PDF (13.7mb) and check the instructions for Quark 6 on page 10.
    http://www.pass4press.com/public/downloads/pass4press_v6_Final-noreg.pdf

    http://www.pass4press.com/
     
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    Turns out my issues are a combination of a couple things... one is that they indeed have moved the 'output options' option down under the Save as PDF button, and two, there is a glitch where it won't let me save off the postscript with this option unless I switch to a different printer and switch back to my preferred printer. Werrr. Either way, working now (with stupid glitch workaround)
     
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    Big problem with direct PDF output instead of printing to .ps with Adobe PDF in Quark 6.0 & 6.1 (fixed in 6.5) is the detritus of bulky postscript files which aren't deleted after use. :rolleyes:

    If you're running one of the earlier versions, then check Applications:QuarkXpress:Jaws:Temp to see if there's anything there. It should be empty.
     
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    You said what now? I don't do direct PDFs from Quark.

    But technically speaking, what is creating my postscript- Jaws or OS X?
     
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    if you generate the PDF through Quark, JAWS with create the PDF. If you generate the PDF through the Save Dialog, OSX will create the PDF.
     
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    And if you print to postscript using Adobe PDF as a PPD into a Press/PDFX1A watched folder for Distiller, you'll avoid both and get a nice and correct PDF that isn't bloated in file size... hence the link I provided back there.
     
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    Bookmarked. Thanks BV :)
     
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    Yes, the bloating is only really due to generating a PDF directly.. What I'm asking is what creates the postscript itself from the Printer dialog in Quark? The Printer dialog is provided by the OS, not Quark, which is why I ask. And it doesn't matter what printer I have set here. Adobe PDF shouldn't be necessary.
     
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    Try dumping a .ps file into Distiller from a Laserjet PPD. Adobe PDF PPD gives perfect results every time, spots included if written as DeviceN.

    But if you have a system and it works for you and separates properly then that's OK too. I'm just imparting well-tried and trusted methods.
     
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    Well I'm going to re-up to 6.1, then 6.5 and see if the glitch disappears.
     
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    6.5: Welcome to external/bleed guides on master pages (finally), Quark Vista etc... :)
     
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    Almost worth the 80 Mb downloads... :)
     

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