RadTech: "We strongly recommend not using" iKlear (Read if you use either product)

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by jackmack, Jul 1, 2006.

  1. jackmack macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2006
    So as some of you may know, I posted in another forum about getting imprints on my screen after using my Screensavrz cloth.

    (link: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=213328)

    I didn't get any good responses, so I took my questions to RadTech tech support.

    They responded rather quickly and said it could be any of several obvious things (dust, oil, etc.), then they said the one that was a dead on "bingo:

    So apparently, you can not use iKlear and RadTech's Screensavrz products together.

    But then, the guy seemed to go further and say that iKlear wasn't good because it leaves a "residue" that can "build up" and cause "optical deformity" which can lead to "eye strain"

    I hate to be synnical (sp?), but do you guys agree with this anti-iKlear opinion, (i.e. is he trying ot push Omniclean on me?), or should I really switch to a less "waxy" cleaner?
  2. WillMak macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2005
  3. Makosuke macrumors 603

    Aug 15, 2001
    The Cool Part of CA, USA
    It all depends, but I don't think it's an unreasonable opinion.

    Personally, I'd rather just clean the screen than leave a coating on it, which is why I just polish away furiously with water and/or the soft cloth that Apple ships free with their monitors and would probably use a "non-residue" cleaner if I needed one.

    But, the iKlear et al. coating can cover microscopic scratches and probably has some advantages for keeping the screen clean.
  4. gauchogolfer macrumors 603


    Jan 28, 2005
    American Riviera
    My iKlear bottle says that it's the only cleaner recommended by Apple Tech Support. That's good enough for me....
  5. YS2003 macrumors 68020


    Dec 24, 2004
    Finally I have arrived.....
    When I clean the LCD screen, I will go with slightly moist (with clean water) towel (preferably micro-fiber towel) to wipe it off. Even some finger print on the screen can be wiped off with this method. I don't let anyone use my computer; so I usually dust off with dry micro-fiber towel as I keep my Macs very clean.
  6. jackmack thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2006
    my thoughts exactly, but i don't like rthe thought that i could be hurtin it lol
  7. Sesshi macrumors G3


    Jun 3, 2006
    One Nation Under Gordon
    What? No-one just hocks a loogie and hoicks up their t-shirt?
  8. Roba macrumors 6502

    Mar 18, 2006
    I have never used iklear but i have used iClean and i would imagine that these two products would be quite similar.

    I ran out of iClean a little while back and now i have just started to fill up an old bottle of iClean with warm water and just spray my screen and everywhere else with a bit of that when i want to clean it.
    I was thinking that the iClean must be leaving behind a solution on my screen because it is not water that is being sprayed onto there.

    When i just tried applying water before with a sponge i didn't like the end results but now when i do it through a small mist spray pump i find that the end results are pretty good. I am going to stick with this method i think also it does not cost me a single penny. Apple do also recommend that MBP's should be cleaned with water and a sponge on their website.

    You know i have never cleaned and polished a computer so much as i have done with my MBP. I was thinking that it is maybe not so good to be cleaning a notebook screen every week or so. I was not doing it so often as this when i had a PC and my screen remained perfect for three years.

    I also was told the other day though when i was on the phone speaking to an Apple support worker that i should just polish my screen with something like everyday furniture polish.
  9. SuperSnake2012 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 11, 2005
    You spit on your Mac? :eek:
  10. Counterfit macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
    It clearly says
    I used iKlear on my iPod (and then promptly lost the $30 kit I had just bought :mad: ) and it worked fine. The best way to clean an LCD is how YS2003 said, a slightly damp (preferably microfiber) cloth.
  11. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    I've used my own finger to clean the screen if I know my hands are clean, particularly when I have my water bottle next to me. :D

    I'll normally use a tissue. :)
  12. Sutekidane macrumors 6502a


    Jan 26, 2005
    I used an iKlear sample that came with something I ordered a while back on my PowerBook g4 screen and it totally smudged up my screen, that it took about 20 minutes or rubbing with my screen cleaning cloth to get it up. This information does not surprise me at all.
  13. WillMak macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2005
    An apple employee told me to use iklear on my macbook's screen. It smudged a lot when I applied it and I had to buff it a lot to get the smudge out. It became clear after a while but I notched two hairline scratches on the screens surface afterwords (only seen with no backlight and spoecific angles). Whether they were initially there or caused by my excessive buffering I have no idea. If iklear is not good for screens then what is it good for?
  14. RedTomato macrumors 68040


    Mar 4, 2005
    .. London ..
    Never use fingers or shirt / t-shirt fabric or tissue paper on your screens or on your glasses.

    I'm very short sighted, and I brought a £200 pair of high quality lens glasses to give myself some style - I was sick of wearing cheap glasses.

    Because of the work I was doing, I cleaned them almost every day, usually on my shirt or on some clean tissue paper.

    After 6 - 9 months, I noticed a constellation of tiny fine scratches all over the surface, and also my eyesight was a bit blurred through them - I could now see better through my cheaper spare glasses.

    Took them back to the shop for repolishing, and was told that the fine scratches couldn't be polished out, and that I'd caused them by using tissue paper / shirt fabric to polish the lens.

    I was amazed because I thought glass was one of the hardest materials in daily use - I've scraped paint drips off windows using a metal knife without scratching it.

    But apparently high refractive index optical glass is softer than normal glass. Tissue paper is made with wood chips, and the cellouse in it is capabable of scratching optical glass.

    Even aparently clean t-shirt fabric has fibres and other particles that can also scratch optical glass.

    So I was told next time I buy expensive optical glass, only use high quality cleaners, such as for photographic lenses. The opticians also gave me some lens cleaners for free, must have felt sorry for me.

    I imagine the same applies to LCD screens - it you wouldn't clean your £1500 camera lens with it, don't clean your £1500 laptop screen with it.
  15. Maxiseller macrumors 6502a


    Jan 11, 2005
    Little grey, chilly island.
    Does anybody know if this applies to iClean?

    I use it every two weeks or so, and I have to say it does the trick brilliantly! I do notice a slightly waxy texture to my display, but I'm not sure if that is the display, or if that is the product.

    Either way, it's blemish free and easy to read again! I'm happy. :D
  16. Bunsen Burner macrumors regular

    Feb 10, 2006
    Yeah, Apple Tech Support™. Great.


  17. WillMak macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2005
    I used the microscopic fiber that iklear provided but it still caused a few hairline scratches. I'll have to be more careful about what's actually on the screen next time I clean it - I have a feeling there might have been some really "hard" dust on the lcd when I was wiping it off that caused it to scratch.

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