Rand Paul Is Filing a Class-Action Lawsuit Against the NSA

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    Good move or political grandstanding? Would you support this on principle?
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/01/rand-paul-is-suing-the-nsa.html
     
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    Can't fault him for trying to rein in the NSA, but I doubt it will be successful.
     
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    I agree that it won't get far but it will surly ruffle some feathers in Washington.
     
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    Because you know, Even though George Bush Jr stated why he created the NSA's extra programs in an interview it's still Obama he should sue *rolls eyes*.

    I don't care for Rand Paul.
     
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    But it is Obama who can put a a stop to the programs now. What point would it be in suing a ex president when it won't accomplish anything.

    I didn't like the Patriot Act then and it is even worse now.
     
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    And what can Bush do about it now?:rolleyes:
     
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    I don't think its that easy. The government has an enormous database of all kinds of stuff. I'm petty sure it would be a lot harder than just a president (any president) saying to pull the plug.
     
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    The president sets the policy, and congress can fix the laws. Everything can be reversed.

    We need more lawsuits to challenge the legality of this.
     
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    Well, he can at least hang as a war criminal.
     
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    Good move , I know it's wishful thinking that Obama and Bush should be jailed over it & the P-A. But one can dream

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    Next to Obama :D
     
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    In principle? Absolutely.

    In practice? I'd be very surprised if it can actually be achieved.

    But sure, let's firmly set some boundaries and hold our government to them.
     
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    "I am a freaking Senator, one of a hundred of the most powerful individuals in the US government, and I am so contentious and unimaginitive that I have to resort to stunts like this instead of trying to accomplish stuff from within the scope of my official standing. Vote for ME!"

    Yeah, grandstanding is a good word for it.
     
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    NSA just needs to release his phone calls they recorded of him talking to his drug dealer and gay lover problem solved.
     
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    Rand Paul is usually someone that I very much dislike, but he occasionally tries good things even though I question his motives in places like this.
     
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    That would prove his point actually. That the NSA can blackmail you into silence
     
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    Glad a suit is being filed but he's grandstanding. If he were really serious, he wouldn't be announcing this on Hannity and he would be trying to pass legislation (you know, his job) against it.
     
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    Love how Bush still gets dragged in on every Obama policy thread even in Obama's second term. Will the buck ever stop with Obama?

    You carry on with ****** policies that were developed before you were president, how does that make you better than your predecessor?
     
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    They appear to both be as bad as each other in many respects. I guess Obama is the bigger disappointment.
     
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    I'm glad somebody is saying no, but chances are we'll soon seem him become unperson.
     
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    Now the Court's feet are being put to the fire.

    Should be telling.
     
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    When someone else created the policy, they generally get mentioned when discussing the policy. Even more so when the very people who are up in arms about the policy now, never said anything (or even supported) when the other guy created the policy. It's not hard to figure out.
     
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    This should be interesting. I, for one, am tired of our government taking liberties with my liberty.
     
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    Maybe cause all of the concerns during Bush was basically ignored by Republicans until Obama came into office. Oh now we care about spending, privacy, big government, and etc: :rolleyes:
     
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    Attempts to bring down the NSA spy program has already failed.

    Using the judiciary to challenge the constitutionality is the next viable step. There are too many power mad goons in the legislative to defund the NSA, or abolish the program.

    I'm sure if Pelosi or Boxer had announced this on Jon Stewart or Rachel Maddow the tunes being sung would be very different.
     
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    It's really the only avenue left.

    The executive and legislative branches won't do it.

    It's up to the judicial.

    It will be interesting to see how it comes out.
     

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