about a 8. My mini doesn't have retina and you can really notice it after looking at the iPhone 5. And some of my apps are still stuck in "iPhone mode" so having to put it on 2x makes it look horrendous. other than that I would enjoy it more but I have an iPhone 5 so it's basically just for a bigger screen. Also why is the white iPad Mini so desirable? Whats wrong with the black one?