Razr

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by iShane, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. iShane macrumors 6502a

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    Okay guys,

    I've been interested in the RAZR for a while now and I asked Verizon if I could get on on they're pay as you go plan, they said yes but that I would have to buy it for the retail price (about 300) I don't really want to spend that much on a phone and then have to spend 30-40 dollars per month on it. So what I was wondering was if I could buy one on eBay and take it in and get it to work with pay as you go (my parents insist that I use a pay-as-you-go plan) and if so what requirements and such would it need to have.

    Thanks.
     
  2. yankeefan24 macrumors 65816

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    It would have to be the RAZR V3c. not the regular V3 but it must be the V3c.

    good luck!
     
  3. ITASOR macrumors 601

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    I know this probably isn't what you're looking for, but, make your parents up a table of the benefits of having a plan, especially with Verizon. For the same $40/month you could be having unlimited nights & weekends and much, much more minutes to use. Make like a chart or something to show the difference in the "cost /minute" or something to help convince them.

    If you really must go with Pay as you go service, don't pick Verizon. Go for Cingular's Go Phone if you can, or even T-Mobile. You can get the RAZR with Cingular's Go Phone and I think it's only $200.

    But yeah, with any cellular pay as you go service, you should be able to buy any phone and use it with the thing. Their "plan" phones and "pay as you go" phones are the same thing. Ask them to make sure though, you never know.

    EDIT: And the Verizon CDMA RAZR's retail price is $399, I believe, not $300.
     
  4. iShane thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Good idea, I will make a chart. Also I don't get T-Mobile or Cingular service around here. We only get Verizon or Cell One, otherwise I would definitely go with T-Mobile, they have AWESOME phones.
     
  5. wwooden macrumors 68000

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    That is some of the best advice I have ever read on this or any forum, nice work ITASOR.
     
  6. iShane thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Oh and thanks for that too. My God if I bought the wrong phone...bad things might happen. :D
     
  7. student_trap macrumors 68000

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    Do what Itasor said. Also, I would advise against getting that particular phone second hand, in all honestly, i have had mine for about six months and its already looking like its going to die some time soon (its insured so that I just get a replacement when it dies), admittedly I don't treat it with any particular care, just throw it in my pocket and use it, but it hasn't lasted as long as my old nokia phones used to. So try and get a new one, then you'll have the warrenty etc and aren't going to be stuck with one of the soon-to-be-dead models that I fear probably make up most of those on ebay.
     
  8. janey macrumors 603

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    In all honesty, I've been trying to kill my razr for a while, but it even survived being dunked into water, and falling out of my backpack/pocket/whatever multiple times. I've had mine for about six months too, half-decent phone - just too many people have it, and I can barely hear anyone on it...(huge irritation).
    Check out some other phones, and also, where do you live that you get verizon but not cingular

    PS, a Mac forum is not the best place to ask, go check out hofo - http://www.howardforums.com , it's like THE site for phone stuff.
     
  9. student_trap macrumors 68000

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    this is one of my biggest peevs with this phone...soooooooo quiet! Also, its menu's are super sluggish
     
  10. iShane thread starter macrumors 6502a

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  13. TrenchcoatJedi macrumors member

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    Read This First!!

    I have a Verizon RAZR V3c.

    IT WILL NOT WORK WITH YOUR MAC OUT OF THE BOX.

    The only bluetooth profile supported by the V3c out of the box is wireless headset. Verizon deletes all the other bluetooth profiles from the phone. They claim it's for protection from bluejacking which is nonsense. The real reason is that they just want to force you to use Get it Now to get pix and ringtones. The only reason I am still with these greedy bastards after all these years is 1) fantastic curteous customer support and 2) I am NEVER in a no-service area.

    You need to find a friend with a PC and flash it to the Alltel firmware to re-enable the bluetooth features that Verizon disables. Once you flash it, OBEX, OPP, DUN, etc. are all back and you send/receive files and sync using iSync (although you have to patch it, instructions are here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=780944 ) As an added bonus, you also ditch the retarded Verizon UI and get the much snappier and infinetly better Moto stock UI. This really unlocks the potential of the phone and also extends the battery life as the Verizon UI is an application that runs on top of the Moto interface using more processor time and draining your battery faster.

    Step by step instructions on how to flash your phone and re-enable all the features Verizon denies you are here: http://wiki.howardforums.com/motoro...c_Tutorial:_Flashing_to_Alltel_User_Interface
     
  14. Clydefrog macrumors 6502a

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    if your plan is expiring, you could switch to CINgular and get a V3, or a V3i. V3i(Razr 2) you can get on online for ~275 unlocked unbranded
     
  15. Heb1228 macrumors 68020

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    All this is not necessarily true. If you download a modified version of iSync, it will work right out of the box. It (the modified version for download) has been posted on these forums a couple times, so search for it. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send it.

    I have the same phone and it works fine. I didn't flash any firmware. I transfer files and ringtones over bluetooth as well as use it with iSync.
     
  16. TrenchcoatJedi macrumors member

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    Then you have the old version of the Verizon firmware (v2). All the currently shipping RAZR V3c handsets have a newer firmware (v3) with the bluetooth profiles removed. Even with that older version (v2), OPP is still disabled.
     
  17. Koodauw macrumors 68040

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    Please take the time to read all posts. As stated before, Cingular does NOT provide service in the desired area.
     
  18. Heb1228 macrumors 68020

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    You may be right, but I'm still doubtful. A bunch of people told me all the exact same stuff you just said about MY phone right after I got it... about how Verizon 'cripples' their phones and all. I just haven't seen anything to make me believe thats actually true. I'm not a cell phone expert, so I could easily be wrong. I just know it works fine with a few changes to the iSync app. That tells me its not Verizon.
     
  19. mox358 macrumors 6502

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    It's True

    It is true that verizon cripples their bluetooth phones. I work in the mobile phone industry and I can tell you that first hand. I've heard it from the mouth's of verizon reps. Google for "Motorola v710 Lawsuit" and you'll get all the info about how they remove the OBEX profiles from the phone. The only problem with the v710 was they advertised them as features AFTER removing them. I don't believe they advertise syncing features anymore.
     
  20. iShane thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Lol. Don't worry guys, ALL my friends have PCs. :( :eek:
     
  21. TrenchcoatJedi macrumors member

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    My buddy was a party to the v710 class action lawsuit. Verizon does advertise their phones now with fine print saying the bluetooth is disabled. From verizonwireless.com: "The RAZR V3c supports the Wireless Headset & Handsfree Bluetooth Profiles. It does not support Bluetooth object transfer (OBEX) profiles." A full description of their bluetooth cripplings can be found here: (PDF link) http://dts.vzw.com/pdf/BT_Chart_Handsets.pdf

    The OBEX in the v2 firmware on the RAZR V3c was a fluke. Someone overlooked it but it was corrected in the next revision. Rumor on Howardforums is that Motorola is getting pretty sick of Verizon's demands on their software and fielding calls from angry Verizon customers. They're pressuring Verizon to open up the phones because of this.
     
  22. iShane thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Too bad Verizon is the only service we get around here (Besides Cell One which has like 3 bars max) :(
     
  23. TrenchcoatJedi macrumors member

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    You will not be disappointed with an Alltel flashed RAZR. Just read Howardforums and see how many happy people there are out there.
     
  24. iShane thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Can I get an Alltel flashed RAZR? Sorry, I'm kind of a n00b with phones.
     
  25. Spanky Deluxe macrumors 601

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    I can't speak for the V3c but I've got loads of friends who got the V3 silver or the V3 black and every single one of them loved it when they first got it because its so sexy but they all hate their phones now because its really irritating to use and useless to text with.
    Sorry to give a bad review but I thought its worth getting another point of view!! :)
     

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