I have a 450 mhz g3 with iTunes 6 holding about 19,000 songs. I don't yet have and iPod and have been getting by cutting MP3 disks for portable & car player. I've decided to get an iPod but the new ones don't support firewire. However, I've discover apple refurbished iPods and I can get a 60gb (gen 4?) that supports photos but not video for $199. It apparently comes with the full Apple warranty and I'm not interested in the video capability anyway. Sounds like a winner to me. Any other opinions?