Respect for human rights.

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by gekko513, Oct 6, 2005.

  1. gekko513 macrumors 603

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    I think that is a great quote, but I wish that was said by an American, unfortunately it is "only" a quote from a Turkish business woman. It continues with:
    The reason why I wish that it was said by an American is that it seems to me that too many Americans has, in the quest to fight terrorism, lost focus on the importance of the human rights and the importance of keeping the same standards for all people, enemy or no enemy. The reason is simple, we may all very well find ourselves being the enemy of someone else some time.

    I don't care that Europe is the area that is mentioned, it might just as well have been Japan or some other place that make efforts when it comes to human rights.

    If our goal is to work for a more peaceful world we must promote the human rights at all levels if we are to succeed.

    Just needed to vent.
     
  2. eva01 macrumors 601

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    Wait turkey thinks they are good in the human rights department?

    since when?

    EDIT: but yes america does need to get better in that department as well.

    Torture anyone ;)
     
  3. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    link, please.
     
  4. gekko513 thread starter macrumors 603

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    They're making some effort now and want to promote their candidacy for joining the EU, so I guess there's a lot of campaign flattery behind this quote, but no matter what the intentions, the quote is still very important, I think.
     
  5. gekko513 thread starter macrumors 603

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    I transcribed it from a television program. I have it in the buffer in EyeTV, I'll see if I can save it some way.
     
  6. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    no worries about that, but maybe "for the record" you can post the name of the show.
     
  7. broken_keyboard macrumors 65816

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    I don't think Europeans are in any position to lecture America on human rights. Europe started two world wars last century. The only reason Europe is so peaceful now, is because America rebuilt it that way.
     
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    Ah, and the Europeans and Soviets had nothing to do with that, then?
     
  9. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    i'm officially sick of your racism, willful ignorance and über-jingoism. to say nothing of your penchant for hoping for nuclear genocide.

    consider yourself ignored.
     
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    Didn't mean to offend. Just expressing an opinion (a true one).
     
  11. gekko513 thread starter macrumors 603

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    You're talking about a continent as if it was one human and with the added presumption that a human being doesn't change much during his lifetime.

    Whatever a nation's history is, a decent history doesn't excuse it from any current actions, nor does a cruel history deprive the virtue of any current actions.


    zimv20: I'm trying to transcode the clip so that I can cut it short and small. The show is called Urix on the channel NRK.
     
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    Your historical analysis is lamentable.
     
  14. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    Opinions are by nature subjective. Facts on the other hand can be true. Surely you learned this much from Ms. Rosenbaum.
     
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    LOL. IJ Reilly also thinks I am a 15 year old obsessive Objectivist. News flash: I am twice that age and have a shelf full of books by many philosophers. I studied philosophy at University (though it wasn't my major). Your misunderstanding of me is only equalled by your misunderstanding of what I am saying.
     
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    You might want to try reading the books on your bookshelf.
     
  17. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    My condolences.
     
  18. skunk macrumors G4

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    What a waste of time that was.
     
  19. plasticparadox macrumors 6502

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    gekko - thanks for the clip.

    Anyone else think that lady sounds like a dude?

    I love Europe. People there are too busy enjoying life to think about carrying guns and hating other people. Completely different feeling there as compared to some other countries in the world.
     
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    And they don't give refunds, either, no matter how compelling a case you are.
     
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    I wonder, who wrote the Philosophy of Machismo?
     
  22. skunk macrumors G4

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    Machismovelli?
     
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    I had no idea the Turks were responsible for starting WWII. It's fascinating what you learn around here...
     
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    ??? You didn't know? Everybody knows that! Not only that, but they started the Crusades, too.
     

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