RIP iPod Classic - 1000 Days Later

Discussion in 'iPod' started by ajcadoo, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. macrumors regular

    ajcadoo

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    It's a sad day for iPod Classic fans. Today marks the 1000th day without an update to the product.

    :(

    Very sad indeed
     
  2. macrumors 68020

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    Should I buy one soon just for sentimental reasons? :(
     
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    wikus

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    No, get a Cowon J3, its far superior.
     
  4. macrumors 6502a

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    I'll be buying one soon. I had to sell mine back in January so I have to use my old iPod Photo or my iPhone.
     
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    Hexiii

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    I just saw that and wanted to start a thread, nevermind. :)
     
  6. macrumors 6502

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    How in the world is it "far superior"?

    160gb. Nuff said.
     
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    wikus

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    In many ways.

    1) iPods are notorious for producing some of the poorest quality sound of any mp3 player on the market. There have been numerous blind as well as extensive tests that have shown Sony and Cowon to be at the very top in terms of sound quality.

    2) Not only does it lack in audio quality, iPods are also missing any kind of equalizer (and no, presets don't count). Cowon and Sony have been offering multi-band EQs for a long time, and I can count back to the 90s with Sonys Minidisc for EQ support which was later implemented to their MP3 players.

    3) Format support is limited on iPod (no FLAC, OGG, WMA, etc).

    4) Being forced to use iTunes isn't a plus. A choice to use it, would be a plus. The fact that I can take back my music from any computer on any platform without 3rd party hacks makes it far more attractive. Open standards is superior to a closed system like iTunes.

    5) a) Apple's got a disgusting history with battery life. I should know, I've had a terrible first hand experience. Their 2nd gen iPod was vaguely described as 'over 8 hours of battery life' which could mean anything from 9 hours to 900 hours or more. The battery ended up lasting me no more than 25 minutes per charge in less than a year. Their current crop of MP3 players have improved, but still fall short of what the competition offers.

    b) Top add insult to injury, theres never been a removable battery on any iPod.

    c) I've yet to see any iPod achieve 64 hours of playback like the Cowon J3 can do. 64 hours is basically DOUBLE of what the iPod gets and pretty much double what iPod has EVER been able to get. While the iPods 160gb storage is nice, its not a deal breaker, most people don't fill 160gb of space with music. I would be surprised if the majority filled more than 16gb on a portable device.

    6) Video format compatibility is by far one of the poorest in the iOS world. Divx? Xvid? MKV? WMV? Don't bother unless you like waiting and converting files.

    7) External memory storage. Another huge selling point. I can take a 32gb MicroSD and slap it inside the J3 or any other card and fill them with whatever I like essentially doubling the maximum internal capacity.

    8) Extra features like recording sound, themes, UI customization, Line-In, etc make the iPod obsolete.

    I could go on, but I think I've made my point.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. macrumors 6502

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    And the main selling point of the iPod classic is still the storage space. Your device + 32gb card doesn't even compare.

    I have an iPad, I do not need an iPod touch or one of those cowon (?) touch devices. What I needed when I recently purchased the classic was .... Storage.


    If it works for you fine, you really weren't in the market for a classic anyways.
     
  9. onmi, Jun 5, 2012
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    I personally love my iPod classic 120gb. I bought it when the 120gb classic came out. I wonder why they don't have a refresh for it. Possibly might see one in WWDC...hopefully. I'd def buy the next gen one seeing as this one is lagging a bit here and there.

    I agree with the post above, I purchased a classic over an itouch for storage!:)

    I really do hope they have a refresh with more storage, new UI look and possibly a faster RPM hard drive...
     
  10. Ariii, Jun 5, 2012
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    I really wish there was an update, even though I won't be able to afford one anytime soon. I hope they don't kill off the Classic :(. There's no clickwheel on the Nano anymore, so I think they really need one on at least one of their iPods. I think there's a couple features that would be pretty cool that I haven't really seen in music players. Something I would like to see would be 2 headphone jacks, and connectivity to external CD readers. Also, I think that Apple should allow it to be used as a flash drive with an external cable.

    Also, with 16 GB of storage, the Cowon J3 can't replace an iPod classic. Maybe you could argue that it could replace an iTouch, but the App store is a huge advantage.
     
  11. macrumors newbie

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    It's called iPod classic for a reason.
     
  12. macrumors newbie

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    hroflotce!

    Yeah, I really hate it when I hear a song twice, whilst going jogging for 12 weeks straight...

    :)
     
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    FlatlinerG

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    I just traded my PS3 for an 80GB Classic and $50. I'm definitely loving it. My iPhone hasn't had earbuds plugged into it since.
     
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    Old Muley

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    Does anyone actually use their iPod Classic to watch movies? I mean, I know you can do it, but is that really the purpose of the classic?
     
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    azahar

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    Er... didn't Apple recently release their lossless audio format (ALAC) under the open-source Apache licence?
     
  17. macrumors regular

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    I could double my iTunes library and still have it fit on a 64GB iPhone, barely. I have a 16GB device, but with iTunes Match I still have access to my entire library anyway.
     
  18. macrumors 6502a

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    I know there have been hundred of car stereos made to work with the iPod and iPhone over the years, I have Pioneers in each of my cars.

    Do stereo manufacturers make stereos that are made for Android? Din't come across one when looking for a iPod ready deck last month.

    Anyways, for those saying a closed system is better than open, that is purely a personal opinion and not fact.

    I always enjoyed loading my Classic with videos to watch on my Pioneer car stereos screen while traveling and resting overnight.
     
  19. macrumors regular

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    If the deck is Bluetooth capable, it can be paired and controlled by the deck/steering wheel controls.

    I prefer Bluetooth over USB/aux in connections, as it pairs right away like a bluetooth headset as soon as the car turns on and I don't have to do anything. Just press the talk button and tell my iPhone to play some playlist/album/artist or call someone or some number, all without removing it from my pocket.
     
  20. macrumors 6502a

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    Not that I need one, I have two iPhones and do not own a Android, but yes, I know they can connect using Bluetooth, my decks have bluetooth and I can play music as well as making calls with bluetooth.

    I'm just asking if there are made for Android decks like there are made for iPod decks that can control the iPod/iPhone and show the track/album info like my Pioneers can.

    I wasn't too impressed with bluetooth audi. It had a slightly flatter tone and I could hear static in between songs.
     
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    A format does not equal iTunes integration. Ideally, people should have the choice of whether or not they want to use iTunes. I for one don't mind the integration so as long as I have the ability to browse, move, delete, rename, etc. the music on the device at will. Apple of course, is very uncomfortable with this.
     
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    I'm not sure if they have that safe certification system like apple does. However there are double-din units for certain makes that run android OS.
     
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    gnasher729

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    1. Poor sound quality? That's what you claim without any actual evidence.
    2. Who wants to fiddle around with an equalizer?
    3. Nobody in the real world cares about FLAC, OGG, WMA.
    4. iTunes works just fine for everyone in the real world.
    5a. What does this have to do with current iPods? 5b. I replaced the battery on my iPad mini with a £3.95 battery from eBay without any problems. 5c. Does the Cowon J3 work with iTunes?
    6. Nobody in the real world cares about Divx, Xvid, MKV, WMV.
    7. Is there anything more ugly and more impractical than external storage? And why would you want to add 32 GB external storage to a 160 GB device, that as you say most people don't fill anyway?
    8. Nobody in the real world wants "themes" and "UI customization". What the hell would you want line-in for?
     
  24. iMacC2D, Jun 8, 2012
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    Decided that i'll be purchasing an iPod Classic next week. It's kind of commemorative in a way, but mainly because I wanted one for quite a while to replace my 2001 iPod 5GB that is becoming quite rare, so i'd like to keep it safe which means taking it out of daily use.

    The one i'm looking at isn't a current model, but a still new-in-box old stock iPod Video 5G with the Wolfson Microelectronics WM87588G DAC... excellent piece of electronics. Will need to be protected though as i've found these polycarbonate-faced, chrome-backed iPods tend to scratch up pretty nicely.
     
  25. wikus, Jun 8, 2012
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    You don't speak for the real world. You seem to exhibit the apple mentality; if I don't need it, nobody does.

    Mind you, youre so incredibly wrong on so many of those points. EQ controls and MKV formats are two big ones that everyone would love to have.... especially since it doesnt change anything, so there is absolutely NO reason why you should negate the additional feature.
     

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