Rumor: Blu-ray heading to 360

Discussion in 'Console Games' started by Coded-Dude, May 16, 2007.

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    Coded-Dude

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    While great news for 360 owners(your HD library is going to be the largest out there - besides the few HD DVD + Blu-Ray player owners)
    this is somewhat of a blow to the HD DVD camp, if true, but I wonder if it will have the same issues as the HD DVD player over the "Elite's" HDMI interface.

    The HDMI standard cites the following:

    All HD DVD players are required to decode linear (uncompressed) PCM, Dolby Digital AC-3, Dolby Digital EX, DTS, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD.

    From what I understand the Elite is able to decode lossless audio but is unable to output LPCM and therefore either passes it as 2 channel pcm or dumbs it down to DD 5.1 640 Kbps.
    The culprit appears to be an internal bottleneck which restricts bandwidth to HDMI.

    IF, and I know it is a big if......Universal finally decides to back Blu-Ray, the war may be all but over.
     
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    I doubt Microsoft will release a Blu-ray player until HD-DVD actually loses, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have one prepared as a fallback.
     
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    Sounds about right to me.
     
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    why not....? this has profitable written all over it.

    Its not like Microsoft has a lot invested into HD DVD, and I am sure there are plenty of 360 owners that did not buy the HD DVD add-on because they preferred blu-ray or merely doubted the overall success of HD DVD. This can only help the red-inked division.
     
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    Ahhhh the plus sides of Market Research and not tying yourself down with a single format
     
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    So, if true, the 360 will be capable of playing HD-DVD, BluRay and HD downloadable films?

    Christ above. Is that every base struck?
     
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    yep, like I said, this is great news for 360 owners.

    but then again, whose to say Sony couldn't also produce an external HD DVD add-on
    (not saying they will, or even want to, as we all know who they want to win)
     
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    No, it needs a VHS tape add on.

    Great source in the OP, by the way.

    What Code-Dude fails to point out is not only is this news very old (Jan06) it was also debunked by MS


    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/01/microsoft_news_.html
     
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    yeah well, A quick internet search turns up several results that just happened to be the first one,
    but since this is a rumor(right now) and I knew somebody would make some off the wall comment about it, I removed it. ;)

    As were rumors about a new 360 SKU :rolleyes:

    btw - MS already supports blu-ray via their operating system.
     
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    And this is atypical Microsoft behavior because...why? :D This company is the paragon of wearing a belt and braces on the same pair of trousers. :)

    Are there any rumors concerning a change in production to actually include one of the high-def standards as the *internal* player in the XBOX? I do feel like the XBOX system complexity is such that I'm almost surprised it isn't available in BTO configurations!
     
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    It was a rumour that was quickly dismissed a year a half ago.
     
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    I remember this being some 2ch rumor that someone heard from their Japanese friend. :rolleyes:
     
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    Reports came from ITMedia, a Japanese magazine/website that interviewed Moore.
    And all he said was it could happen.....
    Debunk it all you want, but you would be naive to think they don't already have a full scale plan, when/if they decide to do it.

    I'm sure they have already negotiated production costs with certain companies, designed the case, and have marketing people ready to unload.
    Not to say it will ever come to fruition, but they have it planned, and considering current sales trends, its not that far fetched of a "rumor."
     
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    Let's recap:

    Mis-translated article

    January 2006

    "we’re fully committed to HD-DVD and have absolutely no plans to support other optical formats"


    /thread.
     
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    Lets expand upon that:

    Microsoft would consider adding an external Blu-ray drive to the Xbox 360 in the future, should the right market conditions emerge. According to Peter Moore, corporate VP in charge of fun stuff at Microsoft, those conditions would be the emergence of Blu-ray as the clear winner in the next-generation optical disc format battles.

    If Universal decides to support Blu-Ray, as other rumors have alleged, this will happen faster than I can say: I told you so.
     
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    Sony is a staunch backer

    http://www.blu-ray.com/
     
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    GFLPraxis

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    Because Microsoft has a vested interest in the success of HD-DVD and a vested interest in seeing that Sony-backed Blu-ray fails. Not enough of an interest to risk their XBox line by pushing HD-DVD in as standard, but enough to not release a Blu-ray player. As a result, Microsoft will promote HD-DVD as the solution for watching HD movies, until it either becomes the standard or that is no longer viable (i.e. if HD-DVD fails).
     
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    If Microsoft did not have an in-house Blu-ray addon for 360, they're stupid. And they might be jerks (I'm referring to their business practices), but they're not stupid.

    They just don't have any plans to release it as long as HD-DVD has a chance.
     
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    One word: Zune
     
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    GFLPraxis

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    Yeah, but in an operating system used everywhere, they'd have a huge backlash if they didn't.

    They support Blu-ray in the OS but they refuse to release any hardware that has anything to do with it.

    Okay, well, I guess they can be pretty stupid sometimes ;)
     
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    Which means...

    Here's a driver, you can plug it in now.

    Like the driver for the Apple Keyboard! :rolleyes:
     
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    The only REAL vested interest they have in HD DVD is the failure of PS3.
    They could have had an equally "vested" interest in Blu-Ray, but that would have essentially guaranteed the success of Blu-Ray(and the PS3).
    Which is not good for the XBOX division.

    There is no real reason why both of them couldn't have come to an agreement and used one format.
    Woul that have been best for us the consumer, well...maybe not, but it would have been better for Dev Companies, and Movie Distributors.
     
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    Microsoft has hardware.....? :eek:


    5.5million PS3's shipped to date(fiscal year only), is far from failure ;)
    (at least 3.1 million oh those are in the hands of consumers)
     
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    GFLPraxis

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    XBox, XBox 360, Zune, and XBox HD-DVD player count as hardware.

    Last I heard the number was around 3 million for the PS3. While it does not constitute an outright failure (a la Dreamcast), it amounts to sales numbers worse than the GameCube...and unlike the GameCube, the PS3 takes a very large loss per sale.

    Essentially, if things continue at the current rateSony is going to pull a Nintendo and kill off all their third party support. Except they'll do it in one generation instead of two.
     

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