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Just one quarter after it took the title of world's largest smartphone manufacturer, Apple has apparently been dethroned by Samsung, according to The Wall Street Journal.
Samsung Electronics Co. shipped more than 20 million smartphones in the quarter ended Sept. 30, a person familiar with the situation said Thursday, beating market leader Apple Inc. as well as Nokia Corp., the world's biggest cellphone maker by volume.

The South Korean company benefited from a push into the high end; demand is robust for phones that consumers can use to watch videos, download movies and send email. The company is also taking advantage of the popularity of Google Inc.'s Android operating system, while also stepping up production in Europe of phones using its own software and software from Microsoft Corp.
The comparison is a bit fuzzy as Samsung earlier this year halted public disclosure of its smartphone sales numbers, forcing observers to rely on unofficial sources and industry analysis.

Several observers have also noted that Samsung's number refers to shipments while Apple's refers to sales, although those metrics may not be vastly different. Apple's "sales" numbers actually refer to sales into the distribution channel rather than end users, and Apple noted during its earnings conference call that channel inventory had declined by 180,000 units quarter-to-quarter. That decline meant that actually sold approximately 17.25 million units to end users, compared to 17.07 million units delivered into the channel.

With Samsung apparently pushing over 20 million units into the channel last quarter, the company would have had to have significantly increased its channel inventory of devices still on store shelves in order to have not surpassed Apple even in sales to end users. Unlike the tablet market where Apple's competitors have flooded the market with shipments that have not been sold to end users, the smartphone market is established enough that channel inventories should be relatively stable and sell-through numbers should be relatively close to sell-in numbers.

Article Link: Samsung Reportedly Dethrones Apple as Top Smartphone Vendor in Q3 2011
 

TheOrioles33

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Don't forget the high return rate. 2 people i know that bought the SG2 are returning them.
 

ChrisTX

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People can, and will most likely speculate all they want. But the real reason here is the delay of the iPhone 4S. Q4 will tell a much different story.
 

blyan

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Uhh, yeah, kind of a no-brainer here. Q4 2011 ended before the 4S launch, so of course sales were way down. Everyone knew a new phone was imminent and so they held off. Not exactly shocking news.
 

Lancetx

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I would hope so.... At this point Apple hadn't put out a phone in 16 months.

Exactly. Those numbers will change dramatically this current quarter with the release of the 4S and the carrier additions that were also made.
 

haruhiko

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The price of delaying the new iPhone. But apple is not a company devoted to get the no. 1 spot. Also, winning a battle =/= winning the whole war.
 

blyan

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People can, and will most likely speculate all they want. But the real reason here is the delay of the iPhone 4S. Q4 will tell a much different story.

This actually WAS Q4... I'm not sure what the hell this article is talking about. Apple's fiscal year ended.
 

MonkeySee....

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With them having won "Smartphone of the Year" three quarters of the way through the year before the release of the iPhone 4S this seems to be a good year for them :rolleyes:
 

GorgonPhone

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"The comparison is a bit fuzzy as Samsung earlier this year halted public disclosure of its smartphone sales numbers, forcing observers to rely on unofficial sources and industry analysis. "

can we just delete this whole silly thread please..
 

Stang68

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You guys realize the United States release of the Galaxy S II is not factored into these numbers either, right? By your logic of the iPhone 4S not being factored in, it's (kind of) a wash.
 

reden

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Honestly the 4S was totally expected. It was too soon for Apple to be releasing an iPhone 5 when they had just released the iPhone 4 on Verizon, and delayed the white iPhone. Apple had no other choice, and this had happened before anyway. I think a lot of customers would have been upset (specially Verizon iPhone 4 customers). Plus, look at the new Cortex-A7 chip unveiled yesterday. When the iPhone 5 hits next year, that's when the masses will once again prove companies like Samsung wrong.
 

samcraig

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Whatever - people will rationalize it all they want. If Apple sold more - they'd be praising Apple. Instead they are slighting Samsung.

Does anyone REALLY care either way? How does it affect you personally? Enjoy whatever phone you have.
 

sillypooh

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Seriously, I'll just make up some number, tell my next door neighbor, and it will be reported as news.
 

hcho3

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Apple is not known for making crappy phones...

They make one product and stick to it.

I am sure apple will make much more money than Samsung on each unit they sell....


Apple got 80 billion dollars in cash reserve and samsung only has 19 billion dollars.

Apple also hasn't put out new model for 16 months. Samsung launched Galaxy S2, W, and probably other 100 devices in a year.

Congrats Samsung.
 

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Don't forget the high return rate. 2 people i know that bought the SG2 are returning them.

That makes it two out of 20 million.
 

Oletros

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I like watching peopple bashing one company when they had praised another one for the same exactly reason.

Ones praise Apple and bashh Samsung, others bash Apple and praise Samsung.

If they have stock in one I would understand it, but if they doesn't, I can't understand this "religious" positioning
 
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