SATA Express meets the '09 Mac Pro - Bootable NGFF PCIE SSD

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  1. flowrider macrumors 68040

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  2. xelanaiznac macrumors member

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    hi guys. how to contact the korean seller? i can't find he link
    thank you
     
  3. ibarnett, Oct 8, 2014
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Samsung-1TB-SSD-for-MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-late-2013-Models-/181550694672?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item2a4543c110

    AND

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Samsung-1TB-SSD-for-MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-late-2013-Models-/181550692099?pt=US_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item2a4543b703

    Be advised if you just make a $500 bid & then let the auction run, you will most likely get a second chance offer thus:

    "The seller has offered you a second chance to buy this item. The second time can be a charm.

    Apple Samsung 1TB SSD for MacBook Pro with Retina Display late 2013 Models
    Apple Samsung 1TB SSD for MacBook Pro with Retina Display late 2013 Models
    Current price:
    US $500.00
    Buy It Now price:
    US $500.00Buy It Now
    Expiration Time: 23-Sep-14 18:00:41 AEST
    Message from seller: I have another one, if you are still interested in, we can make good deal
    Seller:
    mcko10 (41)
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  4. xelanaiznac, Oct 8, 2014
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    xelanaiznac macrumors member

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    thank you!
    i bought it this morning! now i'm looking for the correct adapter
     
  5. xelanaiznac macrumors member

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    guys, i'm here again requesting your help please.
    i am not able to buy the ST-A2013SA-B adaptor.
    i tried both here http://www.shopsintech.com/product_info.php?products_id=942&osCsid=ef2539da21c0fe266650a6d7e3478b29 and here http://eshop.sintech.cn/mobile/ui/product.php?id=1026&s=2822462719216

    the first doesn't accept any payment method (perhaps because they don't ship to italy)?) the second open a sandbox paypal payment page but i can not access using my id and password!
    i just tried to use my paypal account and it works, so it's not a paypal issue.
    any other place where to buy the adapter? maybe ebay?
    thank you
     
  6. ibarnett macrumors regular

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    hey handheld so is the xp941 on lycom still your recommended? or is it now the apple ssd with the other adapter?

    i heard you say earlier that trim is once again disabled? does osx just deactivate trim randomly on the xp941 after having it activated with trim enabler? or does it not support trim?

    Does the apple ssd automatically activate trim when installed since it's apple ssd?
     
  10. ibarnett macrumors regular

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    OK, I have now compared the two models.
    There is the heatsink.
    Plus in the description, 2 more SSD's are listed:
    2. Fit following SSD modules:
    Samsung MZ-JPV1280
    Sandisk SD6PQ4M-256G
    Oh, & $2 dearer :)
     
  11. handheldgames, Oct 11, 2014
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    handheldgames thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Under $300 combined The 256GB SSD with the greatest performance and price these days is the XP941. Apple's 256GB SSD's on ebay are mostly 2X parts.

    512GB PCIE SSD's for the best price is the Apple 512GB SSD. $400 +/- on ebay. It's a x2 part that falls behind the XP941 512 in larger file transfers. (most all OS reads/writes are on small files) The XP941 can be had at a 25% to 35% premium.

    My favorite: 1TB Apple SSD's have been picked up under $600 from a USA seller - Sputnik systems - including Shipping. At 2x price of the 256gb the extra $$ gives 4x the storage! They are the best deal as the XP941 512 is $500ish from NewEgg.


     
  12. RoastingPig macrumors 68000

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    i ordered the lycom adapter from a 3rd party amazon store..and the 256gb xp941 on newegg. So i should have everything in under a week delivered to try out.. I hope everything runs smooth and i don't have the deep sleep problem. Im going to put the xp941 in slot 3 and move my inateck usb card up to 4.
     
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    Can anyone clarify for me if the 2013/2014 512gb apple samsung blade (MZ-JPU512T/0A2) has a x4 link? Thank you.
     
  14. Zorn macrumors 6502a

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    Seems to depend on what machine it came from. The ones out of new Mac Pros appear to be x4 parts (check the model number on the other side, it might start with S4LNxxxxxx) and this seems to indicate it would be 4 lane. If it's from a Macbook, probably just 2 lane.
     
  15. xelanaiznac macrumors member

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    here they said that the 1tb model of rMBP is a 4x lane. is it correct?
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1694977
     
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    yes, the SAMSUNG/Apple 1.0 TB is connected using 4 lanes.
     
  17. xelanaiznac macrumors member

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    while the 500gb is using 2x?
    why this choice by apple?
     
  18. mikeboss macrumors 6502a

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    I don't know about the 0.5 TB SSD from Apple. the XP941 from SAMSUNG is 4x.
     
  19. CASLondon macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not entirely sure, but I think that there is a 512g pcie SSD intended for the nMP that might connect at 4 lanes, while the 512g pcie SSD intended for the late 2013 macbook pros is a 2 lane job. Detailed part numbers should be researched before buying a 512g.
     
  20. xelanaiznac macrumors member

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    so are you saying that the 1tb version is the same both for nMP and for rMBP?
    while there are 2 different version of the 500 gb ssd
     
  21. CASLondon macrumors 6502a

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    As far as I can tell its the same, bar that one comes with a heat sink attached. Apple's numbering scheme ids all of them as separate parts depending on the model, but Samsung's numbers don't seem to make them very different.

    Apple's part number for the 1tb SSD is 661-8142 for the rMBP and 661-7540 for the nMP. You can find the Samsung part numbers somewhere here or looking at pictures or ifixit.

    My retina Macbook Pro from late 13 is a 512g from Samsung connected @ two lanes. I'm pretty sure the nMP 512g is a 4 lane job
     
  22. imanz90 macrumors newbie

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    Will any of the other M2 NGFF modules outside of these work? I dont know if I have the prices wrong but it seems the Sumsung MZ-JPU512T (Apple one) is selling for ~$500 now? Are there any other alternatives in either 512GB or 2 * 256 sizes?

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    To follow up my previous post, is the Samsung XP941 - 128GB 'bootable'?

    I already have a 12TB NAS and multiple drives, I was thinking of 2 X 128GB Samsung XP941 in one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-PC...t=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item4ad8351694

    Which seems to be 4 lane PCIE. Setting them into RAID 0 should give similar performance to the 256/512 models?
     
  23. handheldgames thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Hopefully this helps:

    All versions of the XP941 are bootable. 128GB is a tight fit. I had to use symbolic links to other SSD's to manage my system resources. In some benchmarks the 128GB XP941 is 1/2 the speed of the 256GB part. Avoid using it in a raid if you can. Note that the 128GB is still much faster than any SATA III SSD I've used.

    Raid 0 performance
    256GB and 512GB x4 parts are ideal. Target PCIe slots 2+3 or 2+4 for the fastest performance.

    Single stick performance.
    • Samsung XP941 is the fastest x4 product for 128($125), 256($250) & 512GB($500) SSD's. Enthusiast class technology.
    • Apple's 512GB($400) x2 is a main stream product. No need for trim enabler. Fast performance with a 20% savings over the XP941. x4 parts may be available on ebay. I haven't seen any.
    • Apple's 1TB($600) x4 SSD performs on par with the XP941. Enthusiast class technology at a killer price(only $100 more than XP941 512). Good deals can be found - you just need to be patient.
     
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    mikeboss

    How long did it take to receive your Sintech card from China?

    Thanks!
     

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