Saw my first MacBook today, in the flesh...

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  1. Spanky Deluxe macrumors 601

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    My friend's got a last gen 12" Powerbook and I've been telling him how great the MacBooks are on paper and how one of those would be way faster for his needs, not to mention that his silver baby will lose its value at a rather rapid rate now. He was quite happy with his PowerBook but we thought we'd go have a look at the new laptops in the flesh.
    I have to say I am very very disappointed. I know the tech specs are great, even the GMA950 is ok, especially in a consumer model. However, I was very disappointed with the look and feel of it in the real world. The black felt horribly tacky and cheap and the white one wasn't much better. I was quite surprised about the glossy screens, they were actually quite good, much better than I'd thought and I want one on my next 'book, I hated the idea at first!
    The biggest thing that bugged me was the huge amount of wasted plastic space around the borders on the screen. One of my friends has a low end 15" Dell laptop. Its the same physical size as my old high end dell but the actual lcd screen is smaller with big spaces of plastic around the side. That's how these macbooks felt. They keys felt cheap and plasticky too. I know they're very powerful and high specced machines inside but I really was shocked at how cheap they looked and felt in real life.
    My friend decided that there was no way he'd replace his powerbook with one of these and he'll keep it going for as long as he can before replacing it. Personally I've been thinking about getting a macbook for a while to replace my dell. I wanted something portable and powerful. I was dead set on a macbook but now I think I'd rather stick with the Dell I have and pray to Steve Jobs that Apple decide to release a true replacement for the 12" powerbook.
    I was so excited about the MacBooks when they first came out but now I'm just disappointed and its got nothing to do with what's inside, I never thought I'd think an Apple product was cheap (as in cheaply made and designed, not priced).
     
  2. realityisterror macrumors 65816

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    My sentiments exactly.
    The laptop looks nice in pictures, but, IMO, it isn't anything special in person (compared to PowerBooks).
    The system is wonderfully dense. It's far heavier than I would expect it to be from looking at it.
    And the most annoying thing is the nasty click that the keyboard makes. The keys almost feel "loose" in a way, and you can sort of wiggle them if your finger is on it. It's hard to describe, but I wasn't too fond of it either.

    However, if I had a 12" PB, I might consider doing a straight-up trade for a MacBook, maybe for an extra $100-200, but I'm going to stick with my PB15 for now.

    (of course, all this could just be an excuse so I don't feel bad about my now-somewhat-dated machine ;) )
     
  3. Spanky Deluxe thread starter macrumors 601

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    My friend loves the portability of his 12" PB. Althought 12" vs 13" doesn't sound like that much, it certainly is a difference. Its strange, in the real world it feels like the 13" MBs are much bigger than the 12" PBs yet they aren't actually that much smaller than the 15" MBPs. I'd rather have had a smaller laptop without borders around the screen and the whole thing being a bit thicker. The 12" PBs/iBooks were fine height wise. That in an alu finish would have been really quite nice. There's just too much plastic there at the moment!
     
  4. maxvamp macrumors 6502a

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    I don't know, but I think the looks are deceiving.

    I have just upgraded to a MacBook. I was using an iBook 600 for several years before, and this was a true upgrade for me and my needs.
    I have been indecisive about a new laptop for the last year or so, since I really wanted the wide screen of the 15 or 17, but I could not justify paying that much ( even with a Developer's discount ) for a G4 based machine.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the G4, primarily for the Altivec Engine, but it did seem a bit much for the performance I was getting.

    Now, the iBook did run cooler, and the keyboard is one of the best I ever had. This is the same keyboard found on the last of the iBooks and PowerBooks. But...

    In the week I have had the MacBook Black, I have found the keyboard, while a little odd at first, to be every bit as rugged as the iBook I had, and the performance all around to be a good improvement.

    As far as those that say that the MacBooks / iMacs beat the snot out of the Quad G5, well..... They are smoking something really good, but in general, the MacBooks are a good upgrade in general.

    Now, would I upgrade from a G4 1.67 Powerbook to a MacBook? Nope. Again, there is not enough of a performance boost to justify the cost.

    If it were me, I would wait a year or two before considering an upgrade. After all, I still own my 600MHz iBook, and only now am finding it harder to be productive with it.


    In short,
    Don't underestimate the MacBook, but judge your purchases wisely.

    Max.
     
  5. yoda13 macrumors 65816

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    Not bad advice. I am waiting to upgrade my 15" Powerbook until the warrenty runs out. Not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost right now...

    Now replacing my Quicksilver PowerMac with an Intel iMac...that is something different entirely...:D
     
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    I don't really think it is fair to compare the MacBook to the PowerBook given that is not what it replaced. However, for those who feel their iBook was better then I would say your opinion holds some weight. I personally think there could be a little less space around the screen, but overall the MacBooks feel MUCH more sturdy than the old iBooks IMO. Now if only so many didn't have quirks..
     
  7. maxvamp macrumors 6502a

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    The Velocity Engine is the the magic on the PowerPC that makes High Powered Video and Audio possible in software on the Mac.

    The SSE Engine is the magic on the Intel Processor that makes High Powered Video and Audio possible in software on the Mac.

    For more information, go here.
     
  8. wako macrumors 65816

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    I really cant figure out what you mean by this...


    ALL laptops have a bezel around the screen, and all laptops bezels are plastic. Even the 12'' PB does.


    Did you mean like how much plastic there is compared to how much there use to be? If that is the case I guess I can understand. However this is due to the iSight in the screen, I believe.
     
  9. Spanky Deluxe thread starter macrumors 601

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    Yeah, I mean the amount of plastic there is around there, its far more than on the MBPs/iBooks/Powerbooks and with the smaller screen than the MBPs is far more noticeable. I understand the need for a thicker rim at the top for where the iSight goes but not the sides.

    I'm comparing it to the iBook and the 12" Powerbooks which were replaced by the MacBook.

    Also, maxvamp, don't get me wrong, I fully understand how fast the MacBooks are. Technically I think they're fantastic. Yes I would have preferred a pro version with a dedicated graphics card but besides that they are amazing. No one here expected 2.0Ghz Core Duos after all. My problems are to do with the housing, I was just very disappointed. I was very impressed with the glossy screens though. We put my mate's powerbook next to the MacBook and looked at them both at an angle to the shop front which was really glary. Although the reflections on the macbook's screen were really obvious, it was still much easier to read than the PowerBooks' screen because the PB's screen just went... I don't quite know how to describe it, hazy, gray. The light was getting scattered by the matt covering making the text harder to read on the display.
     
  10. maxvamp macrumors 6502a

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    Spanky Deluxe... Fair enough on the critique

    Max.
     
  11. AlBDamned macrumors 68030

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    The PowerBook's screen bezel is the same stuff as the rest of it - aluminium.

    I haven't seen a MacBook for real yet but the iBooks feel cheap and the 12" PowerBook is generally a rock solid machine. I'd say aside from the processor and iSight, the 12" PB wins hands down.
     
  12. -M7- macrumors member

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    I gave away my PB to my girlfriend because I was so bored of it. I got a blackbook as my new toy and dont care about some bezel. Hell, that thing is twice as fast as my PB, who cares about some millimeters of screen bezel?

    I guess it's just an excuse for keeping the powerbook ;)
     

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