Schiavo had irreversible brain damage-autopsy

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  1. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050615/ts_nm/rights_schiavo_dc
     
  2. dotdotdot macrumors 68020

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    This is the most bizarre thing to the entire story.

    Didn't everyone already KNOW that there was no way for her to recover??
     
  3. Xtremehkr macrumors 68000

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    Bill Frist should stick to politics, cause his diagnosis was all wrong.

    Unfortunately, those who were used by that whole political debacle are still going to be loathe to admit that they were tools in a political game.
     
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    No, our esteemed Senate Leader claimed that, in his medical opinion, Schavio was reacting to visual stimulii. Of course the autopsy proved that she was blind.

    For his sake, I hope Frist is a better Senator than he is a doctor. :rolleyes:
     
  5. MontyZ macrumors 6502a

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    Of course they did, but, some Republicans decided to use this family's horrible ordeal to their own political advantage. That's the real disgrace in all of this. Bill Frist and Tom Delay should be sued for character defamation by Schiavo's husband.
     
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    He's not. He's even worse than Lott.
     
  7. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Parents always hold out hope ... even after being told it's a lost cause.
     
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    Holding out hope and smearing someone's character are two different things.
     
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    Wow, that's weird that her brain atrophied that much. Anyone know if that's a common thing with comas or is it caused by something else. Also, why not give her a CAT scan or MRI and make that determination before all the problems with removing the feeding tube....

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    GW, the GOP and the christian talibans they represent have turned out to be dead wrong on every single issue that has been controversial in the last several years but still they run the country and people support them.
    unbelievable how much mileage they get out of their propaganda machine.
    and sad.
     
  12. leekohler macrumors G5

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    They did. They published the results in Newsweek or Time a while back, I don't remember which. The parents still insisted she should be kept alive. That's why this was so horrifying.
     
  13. IJ Reilly thread starter macrumors P6

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    Not if it's the only way of holding out hope. I mean, doesn't my hope outweigh all other considerations? If not, it should.
     
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    She was alive. She was not on life support. She recognized family members. There are hundreds of people who are far worse off that are still loved and cared for by their families. Her "husband" chose to let her die of thirst. Can you imagine the pain that caused? That is the horrifying part not the parents who wanted their child to live.

    Michael was/is living with another woman who bore him a child and is pregnant with the second all while he was married to Terri. He refused to comment on how much money he would receive upon Terri's death from life insurance but it is believed to be a sizable amount. This is why he did not divorce her and let the parents take over care of their daughter of which they were always willing to pay.

    Also, why do you think he insisted on having an autopsy done and then immediately cremating the remains? Why did he refuse to let independent experts observe the autopsy? Sounds like he has something to hide. Because of the recent legislation regarding the autopsy of Dale Earnhardt, all images and recordings of autopsies are kept sealed. Michael Schiavo should send flowers to the Earnhardt family with a thank you note.
     
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    I hope not.
     
  16. wordmunger macrumors 603

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    Get over it. You realize people in persistent vegetative states are taken off life support (or whatever you want to call it) at the request of family members all the time, don't you?

    The real issue here is that the Republicans shamelessly exploited a routine medical procedure, one that is required treatment in a bill signed by George W. Bush in Texas, to take national attention away from scandals such as Tom DeLay's malfeasance and failures in Iraq.
     
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    Wow- I knew one of you would show up. Unbelievable. Thank God someone like you wouldn't be able to keep me alive in these circumstances. We treat animals better.

    Did you see the brain scan before her death? Much of her brain had already turned to liquid.
     
  18. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Exactly- this isn't unique. And you're right- they used this issue like they use all the other issues they pretend to care about.
     
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    When her brain was deprived of oxygen that caused death of brain cells. That leads to the atrophy. It has to do with the cause of her coma. Also there was a finding that she was blind, due to the death of sensory cells in her brain. That dispels the notion by her parents that she recognized them. In her condition the body is capable of non-purposeful movement.
     
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    Yeah, and what's your hope worth? Nothing as far as I'm concerned!
     
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    This is the only thing that I feel shamed about in this case; that she had to die in such a barbaric way. In these situations, doctors should be allowed to euthanise patients humanely.
     
  22. skunk macrumors G4

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    Well, exactly.
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  23. MontyZ macrumors 6502a

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    What Bill Frist, Tom Delay, Rick Santorum, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson did to this woman's husband and how they lied and lied (without challenge from the news media) is just disgusting and unforgivable.

    Of course, all that will happen is that these same morons will try to discredit the doctor who did the autopsy or make up some other lamebrain lie and go on every talk show to spin their fraud. And every major news channel will be glad to let them do it.

    See my sig. It's so true.
     
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    Most likely will happen... since it wasn't "their expert," it was just the county wage slave.

    And we all know how much the govt employees care about their job. :rolleyes:

    Even if they had this same autopsy report years ago, I still think nothing would have changed.
     
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    "She was alive. She was not on life support."
    --Not the issue

    She recognized family members.
    --No.

    "There are hundreds of people who are far worse off that are still loved and cared for by their families."
    --Not in your state (Texas) they pull the plug.

    "Her "husband" chose to let her die of thirst. Can you imagine the pain that caused? That is the horrifying part not the parents who wanted their child to live."
    --Yep, thats the Texas way too.


    "Michael was/is living with another woman who bore him a child and is pregnant with the second all while he was married to Terri."
    --Yawn.

    "He refused to comment on how much money he would receive upon Terri's death from life insurance but it is believed to be a sizable amount. This is why he did not divorce her and let the parents take over care of their daughter of which they were always willing to pay."
    --ZZZZzzzzzz....

    "Also, why do you think he insisted on having an autopsy done and then immediately cremating the remains? Why did he refuse to let independent experts observe the autopsy? Sounds like he has something to hide."
    --Her brain weighed weighed 1.35 pounds and was mostly a liquid gel substance.

    "Because of the recent legislation regarding the autopsy of Dale Earnhardt, all images and recordings of autopsies are kept sealed. Michael Schiavo should send flowers to the Earnhardt family with a thank you note."
    --Who is Dale Earnhardt?

    --She was a veg. And the Bushavicks took what was left and used her for their own gross political agenda. End of story.
     

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