Screenshot of Panther's Chess (3d)

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  1. arn macrumors god

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    Chess is now a full 3d-app
     

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  2. Powerbook G5 macrumors 68040

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    That's great, I've actually been wondering what the 3D chess looked like after hearing talk of it being remodeled for 3D. Is it still as impossible to beat as ever?
     
  3. saint macrumors regular

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    Looks pretty cool.

    Just needs a bit of smoothing out, and hopefully the viewing angle can be changed as well because it's a bit hard to see from that angle.
     
  4. White Fire macrumors newbie

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    I reckon that the graphics are far from final. I would be very unimpressed if they were, with Apple's standard.
     
  5. NNO-Stephen macrumors 6502

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    it's very cool. several skins to chose from... graphics look quite unfinished though... still a hard freakin game..

    it's got some cool variations now though

    suicide is fun :) you try to kill off all your pieces first. haha

    still hard as hell though.
     
  6. mac15 macrumors 68040

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    wow thats kinda funky, showing off cocoa and quartz extreme mainly
     
  7. nagromme macrumors G5

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    AA?

    The graphics look very finished to me.

    Unless you are referring to the lack of anti-aliasing, which the OS UI as a whole uses throughout. 3D games often don't though, giving 3D edged jagged pixels. I assume that's dependent on the video board. I've never actually seen a game with an AA option, but then I haven't bought too many recent games!
     
  8. Bendit macrumors regular

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    It just looks really pixelated in still photos, in motion it will look smoother.

    And most new games today have Full Screen AA and it is video card dependant.
     
  9. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Very cool - I'd like to see more apps done like that :D

    Even with the 3D, no window version of the game, though, I'd still not be able to beat the computer. Although this might make me play it a few more times and you never know....

    D
     
  10. idea_hamster macrumors 65816

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    Maybe the folks at Apple could include a neat 3D version of Minesweeper to give the switchers a little security blanket....:D
     
  11. qazwsxedc30 macrumors newbie

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    Adding Minesweeper to OSX is the best idea i have heard all week:)
     
  12. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    Apple's Chess must be the easiest program to crash or f*** up for Jaguar.

    Make a few moves, and while the computer is thinking on any one move, take back a move. Do this a few times, and you have . . . it's too funny even I can't describe it.

    And I have never beaten Apple's Chess.

    Also, Apple's 2D version in Jaguar is not only the same, but also requires something bigger than 800 x 600. Well, I guess that's my fault for purchasing a clamshell iBook with a max. res. of only 800 x 600.

    I don't think anything will beat Sigma Chess for a long time, even if it doesn't have board rotation.


    Edit: I should clarify: Free chess software
     
  13. Lydiansolo macrumors newbie

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    I feel that when you look at the board in plan view the bishops and pawns are way too similar in appearance. They need to accentuate the bishop's mitre.
     
  14. stockscalper macrumors 6502a

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    Mac chess uses gnu engine, which isn't a very strong engine. Neither is the engine in Sigma. Both are very beatable! The strongest chess program available for the Mac is Hiarcs chess. Unfortunately it runs only under OS 9 and the company who makes it will not update it any further due to poor sales :mad:

    ~stockscalper
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  15. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    The graphics don't look very good. Like others have noticed, the graphics are very pixelated, and the movement of the board in 3-D is quite choppy, in my opinion.
     
  16. agreenster macrumors 68000

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    You are probably noticing the quicktime playback choppiness.
     
  17. gregorypierce macrumors regular

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    The graphics are fine actually - not pixelated (as its actually a 3D application). It does have some other assorted issues - but NDA restricts me from mentioning those.
     
  18. Jesus on OSX macrumors member

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    Is the chess multiplayer over LAN or internet?
     
  19. reyesmac macrumors 6502

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    Heres a suggestion

    Apple should do with chess what it has done for icons and the GUI...make it look better than anything else out there today. It would be great if they could use more polygons for all the pieces and better textures. Also drop shadows are a must. It just looks out of place beside all the good looking stuff that Panther has. I would think that making it look more photorealistic or more Pixar-ish is possible with todays technology, am I wrong on that?

    Maybe they can use the Quake 4 engine to run it or something. ;)
     
  20. alset macrumors 65816

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    Re: Heres a suggestion

    LOL! That is the best idea I have heard all day.

    Dan
     
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    Way to go Apple!

    We are now where Atari ST computers were 15 year ago!!!

    May be in 10 more years Apple would realise animated chess characters!!!

    "The emperor has no clothes" that was the best description.
     
  23. MhzDoesMatter macrumors regular

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    Re: Way to go Apple!

    That is sarcasm right? You can't possibly be mad that Apple updated their chess game? Or that it's not an actual 3D battle chess simulation.

    You do know that it's the Macintosh Minesweeper right? Not an iApp, not ChessPlayerPro. Just a legacy app that was once symbolic, and quite indicative of the nature of the platform (as a juxtaposition of solitaire as the flagship game of the Windows platform,) right?

    None of your post was more than just a slightly misaligned attempt at a jovial jest of this news item, right?

    Oh, ok. Just making sure.

    -Hertz
     
  24. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    I'm glad to know that the previous two posters were focused on the graphics preview, rather than the game of Chess. All they had to do was scroll up to the beginning of this thread and make a comment.

    All right. Let me give everyone here something other than graphics to look out for:

    Does the knight actually become a horse?
    Does the rook have people living in it?
    Is the board really an undersized floor tiling?
    What happens if the pawn falls on the floor?

    Let's keep in mind that Apple's version of Chess is sufficient to the experienced and well-performing chess player. Difficulty is one thing to keep in mind.

    How about stats? The link I previously provided goes to a site hosting Sigma Chess. The game keeps nearly every statistic under the sun throughout the game. Some examples:
    -->In progress score
    -->Node counts
    -->Nodes per second
    -->Difficulty levels ranging throughout the proper 2500 = maximum ELO scale (I think that references the ELO scale for most computational sports games)

    Other things that Sigma Chess has that Apple's version of Chess should consider:
    -->Different board sets
    -->Custom board designs for 2D and 3D
    -->Customize your own board color

    Now, no more complaining of the graphics provided in the screenshot of Apple's Chess, which, by the way, is in beta mode. We don't want to attract graphics trolls because of this thread. But now that I've said so, I bet you someone just got an idea.
     

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