Security, Safari Reset, "killing" files

Discussion in 'Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) Discussion' started by hulkmad, Feb 11, 2005.

  1. hulkmad macrumors newbie

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    I read an interesting article about how Windows programs such as "Evidence-Eliminator" don't really do the trick, and that they're a hoax, etc., on slashdot.com. Can anyone lead me to some information on securing my Apple computer for my kids and for my work-from-home company? There is an option in Safari called "Reset Safari" that erases the cache, history, cookies, and file download history. I am sure this doesn't do the trick as in "kill" file, as I've read that files still remain on the hard drive even after deletion. Any suggestions or input would be appreciated? Thanks
     
  2. altair macrumors regular

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    I think you would have to zero out your entire hard drive to actually have the info be gone.
     
  3. hulkmad thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Two more questions

    Apple suggests "Third party software" or "zeroing data with the start-up disk." They go on to suggest that "Secure Empty Trash" in OS 10.3 will do the trick as well. My two new questions: (1.) Does "Secure Empty Trash" zero out all data? (2.) Is there any "third party software" out there that anyone can recommend that overwrites or randomizes the "available" portion of your disk on an ongoing basis?
     
  4. altair macrumors regular

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    Ack, i honestly dont know. I am not sure how secure empty trash works. Someone with more knowledge exists around these parts, just keep bumping this thread till they take notice :)


    Good luck
     
  5. Lacero macrumors 604

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    If you have FileVault turned on, and you reset Safari, you may be protected. Who knows?
     
  6. LimitedEdition macrumors member

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    Yes, secure empty trash fully deletes a file. You can also use the srm command from the terminal.
     
  7. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    from here.

    Also, when you've reset Safari it takes quite an effort, from professionals, with professional equipment to restore those data. If you enable FileVault, which use 128 bits AES (Advanced Encryption Standard), that makes a disk image of all users home folder, that have it enabled, and actually does a kind of defragmentation of your home folder whenever you have changed sufficient data (almost every time you log out). With this on you are about as safe as you can, on ANY system...

    Edit: Parental Control will be a feature in tiger...
     
  8. Lz0 macrumors regular

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    You should set up different accounts for your children.
     
  9. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    That is very good advice... why didn't I think of that... :eek:

    Make your own the only Admin account and set up one (limited) account for each of your kids. Check out the choices under "Limitation" in the System Preferences -> System -> Accounts, when you have made new accounts. You can choose between "No limits", "Some limits" - where you set all the rules - and "Simple Finder" - where almost everything is forbidden, except for the most basic uses. And turn Filevault on (under the Security tab) for at least your own, with a strong master password, and you're all set.
     
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