This thread is an offshoot of another thread. I didn't want to send it so far off subject so my response has found a new home here. This is a comparison of Dreamcast and PlayStation2 games, both the Launch Titles as well as all games by the End of 2000. It has been said the Dreamcast failed because of Games, specifically. While there are many reasons the DC failed, Games is not one of them. This comparison intends to prove that and spark healthy discussion on the topic from fans of both systems. NOTE: With the exception of the launch titles, the lists are not comprehensive. There were so many games out by end of 2000 (especially for DC) that I removed a bunch from the list. Most 2D fighters were cut, as were games that reviewed poorly. PS2 Launch Titles (10/26/2000) Armored Core 2 Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore Dynasty Warriors 2 ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding Eternal Ring Evergrace FantaVision* Gungriffon Blaze Kessen Madden NFL 2001 Midnight Club: Street Racing MotoGP NHL 2001 Orphen: Scion of Sorcery Q-Ball: Billiards Master Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2 Ridge Racer V Silent Scope Smuggler's Run SSX Street Fighter EX3 Summoner Swing Away Golf Tekken Tag Tournament TimeSplitters Unreal Tournament Wild Wild Racing X-Squad * 1 First Part Title PS2 by End of 2000 (Excluding above lists) Sky Odyssey FIFA 2001: Major League Soccer Theme Park Roller Coaster DC Launch Titles (09/09/1999) AeroWings AirForce Delta Blue Stinger* Expendable Flag to Flag* House of the Dead 2* Hydro Thunder Monaco Grand Prix Mortal Kombat Gold NFL 2K* NFL Blitz 2000 Pen Pen Tri-Icelon Power Stone Ready 2 Rumble Boxing Sonic Adventure* Soul Calibur TNN Motorsports Hardcore Heat Tokyo Xtreme Racer Trickstyle * 5 First-Party Launch Titles DC by PS2 Launch (10/26/2000) Armada Chu Chu Rocket Crazy Taxi Dead or Alive 2 F1 World Grand Prix Ferrari F355 Challenge Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes MDK2 Mr. Driller NBA 2K NBA Showtime: NBA on NBC NFL 2K1 NHL 2K Power Stone 2 Quake III: Arena Railroad Tycoon II Rayman 2: The Great Escape Re-Volt Resident Evil - CODE: Veronica Samba De Amigo San Francisco Rush 2049 Seaman Sega Bass Fishing Sega GT Sega Rally 2: Sega Rally Championship Shadow Man Space Channel 5 Test Drive V-Rally Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Toy Commander Ultimate Fighting Championship Vigilante 8: Second Offense Virtua Fighter 3tb Virtua Tennis Wild Metal DC by End of 2000 (Excluding above lists) Cannon Spike Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX Grandia II Guilty Gear X Gunbird 2 Jet Grind Radio Napple Tale: Arsia in Daydream NBA 2K1 Red Dog Shenmue Skies of Arcadia Starlancer Test Drive Le Mans Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 Vanishing Point Summary Totals: PS2 Launch Titles: 28 PS2 Games by End of 2000: 31 DC Launch Titles: 19 DC Games by PS2 Launch: 57 DC Games by End of 2000: 72 My observations: This really reminds me why I had such huge amounts of fun on the Dreamcast. It had a great library of games just by end of 2000 alone. It also had a lot of arcade style games that made the experience seem unique, at least to me. What people liked is subject to opinion, that is true. But I think it is pretty clear that comparing the games on both systems out by 2000 really shows Dreamcast had the strongest lineup. You'll also see a lot of games listed that did eventually go to PS2, but they hit first on DC. I bolded the games that are stand-outs in my opinion; does anyone think PS2 had the games DC did when it came out? Did the libraries even compete? Again, we are just talking games here, not comparing the hardware. People will definitely debate Madden 2K1 vs NFL 2K/2K1 and this really comes down to preference. 'I recall the debates on review sites and it pretty much end as: If you're used to Madden and that is what you know how to play, it will be hard to play NFL2K1 because it plays/controls so different. However, in the end if you take out the familiarity, NFL2K1 is an all around better game in most areas.' Tekken vs Soul Calibur - Both great games in my opinion but you, again, have to learn how to really play SC. There is some great counter/deflection moves and the more you play the more, I think, you see that the balance of both games is pretty equal. Kudos to Namco for two great fighters (IMHO). SSX vs Trickstyle - I'd have to say SSX wins, though I never got a lot of play time in. It was definitely easier to pick up and play, Trickstyle really took [me] some time to get used to and between my friends and I, I almost always lost! All the other games for DC on the list though... more impressive then I remembered.