The first question is whether Apple needs to have a low cost Mac in their product line? If so, the second question is what should it be like? I'll say a few thing on the first question, but leave the second question up to the replies. It's open for debate, but I think the first answer is yes. Apple is losing market share badly in places. Fortunately they are making gains somewhere, which offset the loses for now. In education they are taking a beating. In small or medium business, the little market share Apple had appears to be shrinking. Lastly, some homes that have used Macs for years are dumping them for Windows. I am seeing lost of Macs in homes today. The reason for such loses is price. Classrooms, general office use and homes that only do simple things do not need performance and features. Yet Apple's lowest priced new Mac is worthy of digital hub applications. Those who need just a humble computer must either pay Apple's price, buy a used Mac or buy a low cost Windows PC. Most by far are taking the third option. At this point, some might say Apple should let these markets go, since profit margins are small. The problem with this approach is that the Mac is more than a brand of computer. It is an entire computer platform. Mac market share needs to be high enough to keep the developers interested. Without enough developers, the platform cannot do well. That is my pitch for a low cost Mac. Call it a MacPC if you will. It would be worth doing even if it did not make Apple more profitable. Those who take on the second question, there are things I wonder about. How do you keep a low cost MacPC from taking too many sales from more profitable Macs? What should the price, performance and features be? How expandable? Should Apple create their own clone division, and build it under a different name? I'm looking forward to what people think about these issues.