Size of unix shell

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  1. ooagentbender macrumors member

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    I know this isn't the best place to post this but you guys are always speedy with good answers so here goes. Anyone know how much hard drive space a unix shell would take up on my PeeCee, preferably a free version of one if anyone knows. Thanks all.
     
  2. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    Linux?

    Whilst it is reasonably simple to get a Unix shell (csh) running under Windows it will not really feal like Unix unless you have a reasonable number of the standard tools available as well (ls, mv, wc, grep, vi...). You can do a minimal Linux install to less than 100Mb if you just want a command shell. Or you could look at CygWin who made it a goal to port a load of the GNU toolset to Windows. Or take a look at some of the live CDs you can get for Linux .

    Linux Distro with Live CDs: http://www.gentoo.org/

    Cygwin server seems to be offline, should be at http://www.cygwin.com
     
  3. ooagentbender thread starter macrumors member

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    Ok a hundred megs would be really good, whats the name and place to download that linux. I don't mind having a dual boot on my comp so forget windows.
     
  4. jaguarx macrumors regular

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    100mb? You can cut most distros down to that, but it's going to be a pretty steep learning curve if you're not familiar with the shell.
    I'd reccomend Mandrake, go expert mode and cut out pretty much everything in the install, you'll get a little under 100Mb.
     
  5. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    WinLinux

    You could also try this http://www.winlinux.net/2003/ It lets you install Linux on a Windows Partition (the whole install just looks like a massive file) without partitioning and so on. You might be able to get it down to 100Mb by removing X and all the window managers and the like.
     
  6. ooagentbender thread starter macrumors member

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    The winlinux looks interesting but a little large for my taste. I need something small that gives me the internet capability of a *nix so that I can work on breaking into my dummy server ( I'm trying to learn a thing or two about security so I can help my school out). If anyone has any further ideas they are welcome.
     
  7. iShater macrumors 604

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    Well, if you are not familiar with Unix how do you expect to break into your dummy server? :)

    I leanred unix back in 1994 using a book called Teach Yourself UNIX in 21 days. Might sound silly, but it was a nice crash course. Of course I had UNIX account at the comp sci dept in school and I spent a lot of time discovering the tools, directory structure, and read tons of MAN pages (manuals for all the commands).

    I would recommend finding a book like that for Linux since it is the most available system close to UNIX out there. Read, read, download or buy CDs of a Linux distribution and install it on your machine. Might be a good idea to use that Dummy server to install Linux and get familiar with it before trying to "break" into it.

    All of that is assuming that you meant a UNIX shell account, not just a unix shell-like application. There is always a DOS prompt for that ;)
     
  8. lmalave macrumors 68000

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    I just checked my PC - Cygwin is about 20MB installed.

    What do you want to do with your shell? I think Cygwin is great - I use it at home and at work. It doesn't have all the Unix tools, but that's OK, at home I use a REAL Unix machine 90% of the time - my iBook :)

    But seriously, Cygwin is good. Oh, and download Emacs for Windows, too, it's also good.
     
  9. Doctor Q Administrator

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    This won't suit you, ooagentbender, but in case anyone needs a full-fledged Unix development environment under Windows, the MKS Toolkit offers emulation of most Unix facilities. Their packages are excellent (I've used them), but they cost hundreds of dollars or more.
     

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