slow g4 pbk.. help!

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  1. ianhhh macrumors member

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    yo.. my g4 pbk has done a lot of work over th last year, digital photography and image processing, plus the harddrive has been full a few times.. it seems a bit slow.. someone on the forums suggested idefrag.. another person suggested tech tools or drive genius.. i want to do a defrag but not sure which is best..

    im starting to think i should mayb completely reformat it.. anybody with experience help on this one??! pls!
     
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  3. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    cheers. least someone answered .. gues everyone too busy dreamin an droolin over mbp c2d.. its only a computer, not a woman..
     
  4. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    As you may or may not know, OSX includes an automatic defrag process for files up to 20MB in size. In addition, HFS+ formatting (that used by OSX as the default) handles files in such a way that defragging is often seen as unnecessary. There is a program called iDefrag which will defragment your drive for you (obviously) but the benefits of this are largely seen as negligible to non-existant. Since you work with large files quite often, you might see a speed increase by getting an external drive in which you can store these large files. In addition, this will prevent you from filling your boot drive which can massively slow down your performance, cause erratic behaviour and even lose data in some (rare) cases. Make sure you have at least 8GB of free space on the boot drive at all times and in most cases, you'll be just fine. To be more accurate with this 8GB figure, head to Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder and in the Memory tab, check the VM Size. Make sure you have at least that amount of free space available and you'll be cool.

    OnyX is an interesting program. It has some excellent features and is largely seen as very powerful. Many of its maintenance processes are now run by Tiger automatically. There are quite a few threads 'round here that portray what can happen when a user presses the wrong key in OnyX. Unfortunately, since it is such a powerful app, it can also do a lot of damage. As a rule, I don't install this on most of the machines I care for unless I want to use it as a GUI interface for something specific because I don't feel comfortable in Terminal. I don't have it on my machine.

    Tech Tools and Drive Genius will help if your hard drive is damaged or even failing. OSX's bundled Disk Utility can do the same, to an extent. If you have Tiger, open up Disk Utility in the Utilities folder and verify your volume (not permissions). If it needs a repair, then boot from the OSX discs and use that version of Disk Utility to repair the disc. If your discs are not within reach, run fsck. If you're running an OS that is Panther or earlier, skip the initial verification process since it is unavailable on the boot drive.

    If you have plenty of free space on the boot drive and plenty of RAM but things are still seeming sluggish, then try opening a new user account in System Preferences. This will give you a default version of the Home's Library folder. In basic terms, this is half like reinstalling the OS, but without any data loss or hassle. If the machine feels quicker in this new account then you can start trawling through your original Home folder's Library to clear out some of the mess. We can cross that bridge if and when we come to it.

    Hopefully this helps a little bit. I have no desire for a Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro at this stage but am the first to admit that I do have naughty dreams about my iBook G4. I guess I'll leave it there...
     
  5. Sherman Homan macrumors 6502

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    The mad jew is right, be careful with Onyx! Remember also, that using your PB to deal with large files isn't going to wear it down! It isn't getting slower, your expectations may be getting faster. That being said, reformatting is a good way to make sure your drive is completely healthy. Carbon Copy your drive to an external drive, reformat and restore.
     
  6. Jakk macrumors newbie

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    I use MainMenu to maintenance my mac.
    It's just been released version 1.7 to support 10.4.8, go for it.

    It's FREE!
     
  7. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    cool.. thanks, wil hav a play, let u know if i f*k it up!
     
  8. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    jus 1 more pretty stupid question.. does how u organise files affect system performanc , ie. whether u keep everythin on th desktp or in th hd folder or in your user home folder?! cheers..
     
  9. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    I find that keeping many files./folders on the Desktop can slow basic Finder performance down a tad. I find this for Windows too though. I keep all my documents in the Documents folder and the only items on my Desktop are my Hard Drive and iPod (and Network drives where applicable). :)
     
  10. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    i think i mite hav a problem.. jus ran disk utility an got this mess..
     

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  11. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Probably not a huge problem. Follow the fsck link in my earlier post to hopefully remedy your problem.
     
  12. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    update..

    jus figured i shud add 2 this in caase anyone has similar probs.. jus cleanin up th desktop/hd, sorting file structure an emptyin caches made it more snappy.. i think i wil stil hav 2 defrag as when usin only mail an capture1 th virtual mem is almost 12 gb! also when shootin tethered is very slow 2 preview images.. i guesss this is cos th disc is so messed up its strugglin 2 find space 2 write th new files?
     
  13. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    ps..

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    i ran disc utility from disc, was jus volume head needed littl repair..
     
  14. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Your problems were with the disk errors so defragging probably won't help. 12GB of Virtual Memory is quite high, but probably normal for what you use the machine for. Having said that, you might benefit from getting more RAM. :)
     
  15. ianhhh thread starter macrumors member

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    i would but already maxed.. gues time 2upgrad; can c apple rubbin their littl mitts as i writ this..
     

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