Smart Playlists are still in iTunes, but not syncing to my iPhone 4S?

Discussion in 'iPhone Tips, Help and Troubleshooting' started by daniel5gr, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. macrumors newbie

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    Hey guys,



    I tried searching the forums but only found threads about Recently Added playlists that have disappeared from iTunes and devices all together (probably because of accidental deletion)...



    The problem I am having is that today all of my Smart Playlists, including Recently Added and Recently Played have disappeared from my iPhone 4S, but are still intact and available in iTunes. I'm assuming this happened during an auto-sync following plugging in to a power source to charge.



    Can anyone help me restore the Smart Playlists to my iPhone 4S??



    Thanks!
     
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    TheAppleSource

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    Are you using iTunes match?
     
  3. thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm not sure what that is, so I'm gonna go ahead and say no.

    I just confirmed in my settings for Music on the iPhone that iTunes Match is off.
     
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    TheAppleSource

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    With your smart playlist(s), do you have rules setup that could potentially "overlap" or conflict? An example is setting two rules, one being "Media Kind * is * Music" and then having as a separate rule "Media Kind * is * Not Movies*"

    If you do have anything like that, try getting rid of one of the rules and seeing if that fixes it.
     
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    I'm having the same problem. I can't sync my recent playlist no matter what I do. Its like this on my ipad and iphone. Its checked on my idevice , I drag and drop and nothing.
    Any ideas?
     
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    Same question, with your smart playlist(s), or in your case your recent playlist, do you have rules setup that could potentially "overlap" or conflict? An example is setting two rules, one being "Media Kind * is * Music" and then having as a separate rule "Media Kind * is * Not Movies*"
     
  7. thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hi there,

    I haven't made any custom settings or changes to the rules setup (I didn't even know I could)... in any event I just checked the rules and it appears to just be anything added within the last 2 weeks, that's not a pod cast. Live updating is checked... what's essentially happening is the Smart Playlists are not being included in syncs, and don't appear on my iPhone at all, but when I select them from within iTunes, they still contain songs and are up to date.
    It's really confusing and I want them back on my iPhone!

    Any other ideas??
     
  8. thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hi Puckhead,

    I just found a solution that worked for me that I read in another forum.

    If you have ANY rules for your smart playlists that include the "IS NOT" or "DOES NOT" criteria, apparently this will cause the problem.

    I will say that my Recently Added and Recently Played smart playlists were default ones, I never modified their settings and so I'm not sure how they spontaneously became a problem, but both had a rule stating the "Kind" IS NOT a Podcast.

    When I right-clicked the smart playlist, chose "Edit Smart Playlist" and removed the rule stating content was not a podcast - my next sync attempt put the Smart Playlists back on to my iPhone!

    This must be a bug they will hopefully fix in the near future. Give this a try and see if it works for you as well. Good luck!
     
  9. macrumors regular

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    I'm now having this same problem on my iphone 4s after syncing last night and I made no smart list changes since the last sync.

    I have Sync Music & Entire music library checked. This has to be another 10.6 bug. I now also have 2 purchases playlists on my phone.
     
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    Do you have live updating selected for your smart playlist(s)?
     
  11. macrumors regular

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    Yes.
     
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    Do any of your smart playlists have conditions which involve a "NOT" statement?
     
  13. macrumors regular

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    Nope, just contains.
     
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    Try deleting all of your music from your iPhone (plus untick "sync music" in iTunes when in your iPhone's options) and then sync music back to your iPhone. It's fixed it for others before so worth a try.
     
  15. macrumors newbie

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    Yes but where do I find what rules are in place?

    I have the downloaded latest version of itunes available today (23/March/13 ). Where do I find out where these rules you mentioned are?

    I have not actually changed anything myself. I just updated the version of itunes and sync'd (or in new terms it seems "autofilled") and my play lists were stripped off the iphone.

    I need step by step instructions because I can't find anything on this new version of itunes anyway. I am totally lost.

    Can you advise in one click steps how to find these rules and what to do to get back my playlists?

    Thanks
     
  16. jaba-who, Mar 23, 2013
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    macrumors newbie

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    After a bit of hunting on the internet

    Well. Seems half the world has had this problem since about mid 2010. I have found a whole bunch of different things that have fixed the problem for some people but so far nothing has helped me.

    I found the above mentioned "rules" - where each playlist in itunes has the dropdown lists for contains, does not contain etc. No help - all my lists were already set at "Contains"

    Someone else fixed theirs with turning on itunes match then turning it off again. No help.
    Others had success with just syncing multiple times and eventually it worked. But some found it was only a temporary fix and it reverted again later. No help for me either.

    Some found that renaming the play lists helped. Not for me :-(



    Someone said "right click each playlist and duplicate and delete the original playlist and that will fix it" - again not for me.

    And to top it off.....

    I wanted to add a song to a playlist on the PC itunes. Couldn't find how to do it. Found a tutorial (that is annoying me no end. I have to go back and have tutorials on how to use something that used to work fine and I could use) it says all you have to do is start dragging a song and the playlists appear on the right so you just drag across to the playlist you want. Well no! it doesn't!

    Only Half the playlists appear. The one I want is not there.

    Edited addition *Worked out something - The playlists that don't appear are smart lists which by the way I don't actually want as smart list but I somehow started them as a smart list and I can't unmake them to a standard list (as far as I can tell)*

    And something else.
    While itunes is playing a song the mouse cursor becomes erratic and clicks don't function.

    I am profoundly unimpressed by this rubbish that Apple has turned out.
     
  17. macrumors newbie

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    Oh no - there's more!!!! :-(

    Several years ago I was learning Japanese. I had large number of audio files from the tuition CDs on my iphone. I stopped using them about a year ago and deleted them from the iphone and from itunes.

    I can't believe it. They are back on my iphone!!!!

    I'm going to get an android!!
     

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