So no powerbook G5?

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  1. dadio2002 macrumors regular

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    So I have the chance to get a powerbook this year but am probably not going to college for 6 months to a year. I was wondering if i should wait to see if a G5 powerbook will be out but wanted to make sure with you guys if thats true or not. Should I go with the new updated G4 that will last me a couple years?
     
  2. dotdotdot macrumors 68020

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    There will not ever be a PowerBook G5, ever, unless Apple decides to name the Intel processors the G5s also, which would be stupid.

    Basically, one of the main reasons Apple is switching to Intel is because IBM, the maker of the PPC processor, can not DO powerbook G5s. The G5 is an incredibly hot, overpowered processor - A Dual 2.7 G5 is basically just an overclocked Dual 2.0 GHz G5 - thats it. IBM does NOTHING for Apple power-wise, all they do is take up space, overheat, don't work as hard, and are very expensive.

    So, the PowerBook G5 on Tuesday! rumors will stop...
     
  3. dadio2002 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Okay well that answers my G5 question! Thanks

    But so doe that mean there will be a new powerbook coming out soon, like within a year or so. Or do you think its wise to buy a powerbook now?
     
  4. Dr. Dastardly macrumors 65816

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    The Powerbooks will probably get one more G4 speed bump but I do beleive that the PB will be the first in line for a Intel chip. They are the ones that are the in the most dire straits for a speed increase. But with that saying it probably won't be until WWDC or at the VERY VERY least MWSF in January (I highly doubt it). Neither of which really help you out much in your 6 month time frame. I would say just get it now. Any upgrade they will have for it will probably just be a bump in speed of about 200 mhz.

    Just reread your post, its 6 months to a year so then they might change by then. But if you want it now I still say just get it.
     
  5. tech4all macrumors 68040

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    Actually I think I read it on some MacBytes article thing that the dual 2.7 is an overclocked 2.5 and the 2.3 is an overclocked 2.0


    We can only hope! ;)


    But I do wonder what will be the name for them with Intel....I guess not G6?
     
  6. dadio2002 thread starter macrumors regular

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    thanks for the suggestion.

    For just joining this Forum...im very happy with the quick replies.
     
  7. HiRez macrumors 603

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    I've been told by a friend who works in the PowerBook division that there never even was a PowerBook G5. Of course they wanted to do it, they initially expected to do it, they had designs for it, but apparently it never even worked deep within Apple's Bat Cave. So yeah, it's not going to happen, not even as a stopgap.
     
  8. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    What has your friend told you then about upcoming PowerBook updates? Sounds like he's quite the valuable source to have, please share!
     
  9. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    And the June 30 article in EWeek somewhat negates, if true, some of the publicity release for the reasons for changing from IBM to Intel. It's tough to believe much, if anything, of what's being bandied about. I was one of the wishfuls hoping to see a PB G5 released late last year with the talks and articles about progress in cooling and 3GHz chips and all; but decided to go ahead and get a AlPB 15" in October which happened to be a good decision.
    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,,1833126,00.asp
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  10. punkbass25 macrumors member

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    to be honest i would wait until after the paris expo because it is possible a new powerbook with a really small speed bump in it,will be released. doesn't sound like much, however the fronside bus will be bumped to 200mhz which will probably go a ways to increasing overall speed of the machine.
     
  11. dadio2002 thread starter macrumors regular

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    When is this expo taking place?
     
  12. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Apple Paris Expo 2005 will be held September 20-24.
     
  13. dadio2002 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well if its only a small increase maybe it wouldnt matter if I got one now.
     
  14. tsk macrumors 6502a

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    If you've got a year's worth of wiggle room here, you can no doubt wait for the big move to Intel. Yes, there should be a minor G4 bump. But, shortly after that, there should be a *big* bump up to Intel (possibly dual core). I expect the Intel PB to be announced in January (MWSF?) and shipping something like April.
     
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    Okay well im going to have to make a big decision on that.

    Perhaps I can buy one now and then down the road when Intel Pb ship out i can make a trade in.

    It will be my first owned mac. Always been a windows owner.
     
  16. BWhaler macrumors 68020

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    There is absolutely zero reason to wait for a G5 Powerbook.

    Zero.
     
  17. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    If there's another huge advancement in the PowerBook line prior to the move to Intel, I'd say the likelihood is to see Freescale Dual-Core G4s more than a G5.
     
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    The reason I ask all this is because being a Pc user I know how things can easily become out of date. I hear that macs are slower when it comes to big updates or out of date products. Just dont want to but a system then have a new better one show up o nthe market.
     
  19. eleveneastgate macrumors 6502

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    Apple will not serve the PB G5, until its time... :D
     
  20. HiRez macrumors 603

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    Well there is that pesky NDA and he only told me about it after the fact. I respect that, and don't ask him about anything he's currently working on. :rolleyes: Of course it has nothing to do with the fear of a team of deadly Apple assault Ninjas (wearing black mock turtlenecks and blue jeans, natch) swooping into my bedroom on a dark night to silence me. ;)
     
  21. ClarkeB macrumors 6502

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    I just heard that there will be Powerbook G5s on Tuesday.
     
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    Considering Apple and IBM are the manufacturers, and overclocking means to clock a chip higher than it's rated to run by the manufacturer, that would be untrue. Much like the G4s, just because it's hot, doesn't make it overclocked, just clocked as high as it can go. AMD and Intel do the same thing. But no, you will never see a G5 PowerBook.

    To the original poster, buy a new iBook to test the waters. Whenever the next revision comes out (any day now) if you can wait. Go to an Apple Store sometime and play with them extensively to see what you think. If you can wait a year, but next June Steve Jobs said that there would be Intel Macs, and we're all guessing they'll be portables since the G5 still has a little life left in it (as opposed to the G4, at least) and he made such a big deal about power consumption. Otherwise, the G4 is fine. It's not great, but it does run OS X fairly well with a good video card and lots of RAM.
     
  23. dadio2002 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Is it just the PB's and Ibooks that will have intel's or with the disktop mac have them too. My friend wants to purchase a G5 powermac but want to tell him about the upgrades before he buys.
     
  24. dotdotdot macrumors 68020

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    No, overclocked, as in IBM made processors of over 3 GHz and sent Apple ones at 2.3 GHz and Apple overclocked it to 2.7 GHz...

    You can't overclock a Dual 2.7 G5, because its already overclocked. And thats why is so damn hot.
     
  25. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    The 2.7 PPC970FX is likely as hot (if not a bit more) than the original PPC970.

    IBM did their best to downplay the heat of the original PPC970, but some of the more recent documents from IBM put it in as a 100+W chip
    Which is a bit more than they admitted to in the original PPC970 Max Power Docs.

    The numbers being tossed around for the 2.7GHz PPC970FX is 115W.

    Edit: Remember heat wasn't the problem with the PPC970FX (especially with water cooling), it was voltage -- both low and high. Too low and it stopped working (so no low power variant), and too high and the lifespan tanked to nothing (so no high performance variant.)
     

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