Sony mini-DVD burning, ripping problems

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  1. pequall macrumors newbie

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    sup sup,

    I have been having a lot of trouble with my mini-DVD footage taken with my Sony camcorder.

    While searching the forums I discovered that I can not edit these in iMovie very easily (too late to get a new camcorder; miniDV seems to be the way to go for editing). I can edit using either DVDxDV or Cinematize to convert my mini-DVDs to DV format, but at the moment I would be satisfied if I could just copy these DVDs as is.

    I have tried to use Toast's disk copy. I have tried to use Toast and burn the VIDEO_TS file shown with in the disk. I have tried to copy the VIDEO_TS to hard drive. I have tried to rip the disk using Mac the Ripper (2.6.6) to no avail (the program quits before ripping begins; FYI: Mac the Ripper works just fine when backing up my bought DVDs). None of these methods have given me a workable copy.
    --All mini-DVDs have been finalized and play great in computer or player--

    My goal is to just be able to copy the footage and send it to family. I would very much prefer to copy a few 1.2 gig disks to the larger 4.7 disks.

    Is any of this possible? What am I missing? What am I doing wrong?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Artful Dodger macrumors 68020

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    I've read this before with the Sony/others that record to dvd. You may want to send an email to Sony and see if they can help but some folks here will also try, so welcome ;)

    MTR is for encrypted dvds and yours is not so that is one less step.
    I think at www.camcorderinfo.com some people were having problems on pc/Macs as well if that's where I've read on this. Just out of interest did you look on the Apple site under iMovie to see if others had the same problems? Just a thought and hope someone else can help out more ;)

    Okay did a quick search at Apple and I forgot about this site as well:
    http://danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/tips_tricks/6010.shtml
     
  3. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Dodger,

    Will do!

    I actually found enough on these forums to realize that editing is a problem with a Sony DVD camcorder that uses USB. So I am not going to even try to edit any time soon. I just want to copy the movies so that I can mail them out. That's also why I am interested in being able to burn a few of the mini-DVDs to a larger 4.7 DVD.

    Thanks for the links I will check them out.
     
  4. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    No luck with the links Dodger, thanks thou.

    Anyone have any more ideas for me?

    To recap:

    I am having problems copying my mini-DVD footage. Idealy I would like to copy a few of the mini-DVDs to a standard one.

    Thanks!
     
  5. Artful Dodger macrumors 68020

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    Sorry couldn't help more, never used a Sony DVD cam before, good luck ;)
     
  6. rjphoto macrumors 6502a

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    What version of iMovie are you using?

    I've put an email out to a friend who I thought had found a fix for the same problem. When I hear back I'll let you know.
     
  7. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I have version 3.0.3, but it's not an iMovie problem that I have I am pretty certain. I have a Sony DCR-DVD101 wich burns on to mini-DVD. The camcorder uses USB to connect to the computer and thats where the problem comes from.

    I am giving up on editing at the moment and would just like to make copies of the DVDs to send to my family.

    Has anyone had success using a ripping program like Mac the Ripper with mini-DVDs? I am pretty sure the DVDs are encrypted after they are finalized because I can't even make a copy of the VIDEO_TS file to my hardrive (error msg about the .VOB file)

    Thanks.
     
  8. rjphoto macrumors 6502a

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    First things first.
    You don't need the USB to get the footage on the Mac. You need a DVD-rom drive. If you said I missed what type of Mac you have. As long as you have a TRAY loading drive and not a slot loading drive you should be ok.
    I went back and read your post that the DVD plays on the computer. Then you should be able to copy it some way or another. If your iMovie is version 3.0.3 then I'm betting your OSX is not the newest. I'm running 10.3.9 and I use disk utility to copy DVD's that I have created in iDVD with no problems.

    I make a disk image and then burn that image to a new DVD. This comes in handy when I make a DVD and the customer comes back and wants a couple of extra copies for relatives.

    As for editing your footage, you will need some sort of extra software (it sounds like you already have it) to create a file that iMove will recognize. I suspect that you will need to upgrade iMove though.
    I'm dealing with a similar problem with DVD's burned on set top DVD drives used in laparoscopic surgery. I'm eager to find the right software as well. Let me know what you find.

    (Edit) My friend had the Sony Mavica CD (still camera that shoots MPEG movies) not the Sony DVD Cam. sorry.
     
  9. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    rjphoto, u are the man!

    thanks for bringing to my attention to use Disk Utility, the one thing I had not tried (Shame on me) :eek:

    I copied the disks using the DVD/CD master option. The .cdr files contained the VIDEO_TS files I needed and using DVD2OneX I was able to "Join" the disks on to one standard DVD.

    It worked with no problems.

    I think that the mini-DVDs never get encrypted even after they have been "Finalized" by the camcorder, therefore Mac the Ripper was not able to help me with them.

    Thanks for the help :D
     
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    Nice to see that you are able to do what you would like with the dvds :)
    Nice thread, always learn something new I do ;)
     
  11. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    just when I thought everything was ok, I hit yet another obstacle. :(

    now Disk Utility does not like to image non-Sony Disks. I get an input/ouput error msg.

    ok so Mac the Ripper is out of the question, now Disk Utility is not working on these disks, so is there another option for me?

    I saw on another thread a link to a program named DVD Imager. I'm guessing this would make an image of the DVD as Disk Utility is supposed to do. Is this a viable option for me? anything else I can try?
     
  12. rjphoto macrumors 6502a

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    Give the old girl a reboot. You may need to clean off some of the disk images you have already made...ie: make sure you have plenty of Hard drive space available (at least 5 gigs).

    You may also want to repair permissions in Disk Utility on your main hard drive.
     
  13. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    rjphoto,

    no luck. I repaired permissions, verified the disk: disk was "OK"

    I now can't make a image of any of my disks. I keep getting Input/output error message.

    I downloaded DVD Imager and that won't work on these disks either.

    I am starting to loose faith. I am spent in my knowledge of Mac and these programs. I got 4 disks imaged and that was that.

    Don't even know what to ask now. Anyone have luck resolving Input/output problem? Any other software I can use to make an image of these disks?

    I am using iMac G4 700Mghz flat panel, 512 memory, OS 10.3.9
     
  14. Artful Dodger macrumors 68020

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    Hi, you got 4 discs imaged, so are they the same? And are they now on full sized dvds? If so then use Toast to make "more" copies of the same.
    Wow are you having bad luck :eek: did you try a Google search on the errors (only if it gave you some type of code #'s)? Sorry out of Q's for you :confused:
     
  15. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    dodger,

    I got 5 now that I was able to create an image for, but I have 6 that I get Input/ouput error messages for.

    The 5 that worked are 4 Sony Handycam DVD-R and 1 Sony DVD-RW

    The 6 that are not working are 1 Sony DVD-R and 5 Memorex Mini DVD-R.

    With images that actually worked I was able to "Join" using DVD2OneX and burn to one standard DVD using Toast. It worked great, exactly what I am looking to do.

    As far as searches go, I have been searching for info everywhere and I must have registered for about 5 different forums too :confused:

    Its 2005, why is this a problem? Should be easier than this.... lol

    Anyone know of a way to check the files themselves to see if they are good? The movie plays well in the player so I don't think there should be a problem.
     
  16. Artful Dodger macrumors 68020

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    I would stick with the Sony and not use the Memorex (had bad dvds with them before). If you can open the Video_ts file or whatever file the video is on you can use VLC or DVDPlayer to preview it. Most of the time that method works but I can't promise anything as those discs are giving you problems still.
     
  17. pequall thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I can watch the video on the disk with out any problems. My problem comes when I try to make a disk image of the DVD.

    Can this be a corruption issue with the .vob or other file in the VIDEO_TS folder?
    Can a corrupted file result in an I/O error message or would another error appear?
    Can you repair a corrupted .vob file? How?

    Anyone?
     
  18. Artful Dodger macrumors 68020

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    Sometimes you may have to re-rip a .vob file due to certain reasons but this has only been done with MTR for me anyway, just select the .vob and rip it again (I should say a new .vob file, the same file # that was bad) then just remove the bad one and put in the new .vob after you test it.
    Try this as I just found it and it may help you out.
    http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/System.IO.Error.html#t:IOErrorType
     
  19. yippy macrumors 68020

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    Try Handbrake to rip the DVDs to your computer as mpeg files. Then you can use iDVD or Toast to burn a new DVD with the movie file.
     
  20. chemicalbill macrumors newbie

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    Yes, Handbrake is the only program that I've found that will rip the entire mini-DVD disk. I use Handbrake to rip the DVD from my Sony DCR-DVD92 to MPEG-4, then I can import it into iMovie HD for editing.

    Others like Toast 7 will only rip the first chapter.
     

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