Sony MZ-N505 Mini Disk and iTunes

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  1. D0ct0rteeth macrumors 65816

    D0ct0rteeth

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    So one of my buddies has a Sony MZ-N505 Mini Disk player as a gift and needs a computer.

    I have BTTM ready to sell me an ibook and I was wondering if I burned minidisks in iTunes would they work with it?

    I know the ipod is better but he wont spend the 400 bucks for the ipod.. and his girl would be pissed if he ditched the minidisk player anyway.

    This thing comes bundles with tons of software and drivers for the PC... as a last ditch effort would it work with virtual pc?

    anyone tried this... either iTunes or VPC?

    Thanks.

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  2. ShaolinMiddleFinger macrumors 6502a

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    I used md's with my mac. I not sure which md player I got but if you have the USB adapter that came with the md player, you should be able to. Just make sure to have your volume on the computer high.

    If you have the crossfade playback selected on iTunes, the md will just make one big song. If you have it turned off, you get the songs seperate. Sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't.
     
  3. D0ct0rteeth thread starter macrumors 65816

    D0ct0rteeth

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    sound the idiot allert. im confused.

    how does volume matter?

    aren't they just smaller cd's?

    schools in session. teach me smf. :)

    can't you just burn them in iTunes.

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  4. evildead macrumors 65816

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    ?

    Do you have a Sony MD (miniDisk) player?? Or somekind of new device that plays Mini-CDs? The small CD-R's that you can use in some DV cameras and get passed out as Bisness cards? MiniDisks are come in a plasic square casing that you dont remove it from. the mini-CD's and mini-CD-R's just look like small CD's. The Dr's last post makes me ask the question.

    -evildead
     
  5. Tommy! macrumors regular

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    The difference between the MD and CD lies in the recording device. the MD recorder eliminates noise that cannot be heard anyway, and reduces the amount of space needed to store music.

    If the MD player is Net MD, it will not work with the mac through the USB PC link. the only option is to use an analog cable (i duno what its called but it looks like a headphone cable except with 2 male ends). you would have to use your analog audio out/ headphone jack to connect the MD, at which point the MD recorder would not pick up the separate tracks.

    If, however, the MD recorder is not NetMD, and just has a PC link, i think it has drivers to work with the mac. See Sony's Website for more info.

    PCLink with NetMD- high speed transfers (digital)
    PCLink w/o NetMD- 1x transfers (digital)

    hope this helps.
     
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  7. ShaolinMiddleFinger macrumors 6502a

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    ok....let's get this straight before we go any farther, are you talking about Mini Discs or Mini CD's?
     
  8. D0ct0rteeth thread starter macrumors 65816

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  9. TiGeuse macrumors newbie

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    He's talking about a MD Player "Mini-DiscMan?". That is Mini-Disc, as in little disc, enclosed in semi-transparent case (kinda looks like a floppy disc, with a little protective door, and all). Sony, probably is the most prolific manufacturer of this these devices. I have an in-dash player in my car, and a little portable player/recorder, 1/2 the size of my iPod. You can record 75 or 80 minutes of music on each disc. ???? I know, but these are the two sizes available?? (newer players will record up to 5 hours, however, this is in "monaural" mode -read: sounds like crap, but good for live voice recordings...). The technology is seasoned at this point, it is basically the same as CD, but the high and low frequencies (not heard(?) by the human ear) are not burned into the disc during the recording process, thus allowing for the compact nature of the medium. You can record onto the discs many times, like a CDRW. The newer players do come with, what Sony calls the iLink(?) or something like that. It is basically a usb cable and Windoze software. I guess, the deal is that you could record the 80 minutes in less time by getting the thing synced up with the Win-DOS box. (i.e. it currently takes me 80 minutes to record an 80 minute iTunes song list through the analog sound out (headphone) mini-jack on my Ti, using a male to male analog cable running into the analog/digital(!)...Apple, can you say Digital out??... in-jack of the MD player/recorder. After exhaustive research I have found no available remedy for usb sync with Mac. Perhaps this should be my first Cocoa late-nite stay up? At any rate, the technology is solid, the disc sounds great in my vehicle (sounds just as good as iPod in the car) running through a big ADS amp, a 12 inch sub and some MB Quart Separates. (I like the "smallness" of the M-Discs because you can throw 1 in the player and stash 4 in the ashtray and you basically have tunes in the car for a few days and they never get scratched). When I record from my Ti I run iTunes EQ flat and volume about 50 percent, the Ti Volume at about 50 percent (my MD player has adjustable record volume and i run it at about 70 percent... after several tests for the best level in my circumstance... I just try not to overdrive the signal coming out of the Ti, too much. The earlier post is correct. If you want to have separate songs on the MD you have to use the iTunes controls wisely. I got my stuff, probably 3 years ago and it has performed solid to this point (all Sony gear). So, if you don't mind the 80 minutes to record each disc, it is great stuff, medium is pretty cheap, too! Sorry, don't mean to ramble.... hope this helps. (Oh, yeah MD is great and people still flip out when you show it to them, but hey baby, it's an iPod world now!) ... Also, beware (at least on my TiBook 667 30/512 pre-DVI) while recording I have had skips in the sound output while doing other things on the computer. A good example is surfing the web through airport/Cable Modem... When a download hits your computer the sound just starts breaking up skipping and popping... I have researched this and appears to be, just another issue, with the Ti (i.e. xlr8yr mac guy said lot's of people have complained about this...as well as the blown FW port on the TiBooks, like mine:( ...sorry for taking up so much of your forum. later.
     
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  11. ShaolinMiddleFinger macrumors 6502a

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    He's mixed two different things....

    Notice the "smaller cd's" quote? Also the "burn them in iTunes" blurb....
    but he mentions Sony MZ-N505 which is the MD....
     
  12. TiGeuse macrumors newbie

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    this is because you are not actually transmitting a stream of digital data from the mac to the md. it is more 'akin to, say, if the minidisc player/recorder had a really good microphone running into it, in a real quiet room..... ugh!!! It's not ... here, go check this place out http://www.minidisc.org/

    good luck!!

    ...and sorry, a good teacher i'm not, but i'm tryin' here!
     
  13. D0ct0rteeth thread starter macrumors 65816

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    thanks. i obviously had no idea what i was talking about.

    i feel so enlightened.

    thanks for all the help.

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