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Discussion in 'Community' started by JesseJames, Mar 13, 2004.
How many of you guys looked up to Spock from Star Trek while growing up?
Come on, admit it.
Ummm no. If I'm going to look up to anyone it will be someone who actually exists. If anyone Robert Redford would be someone who I look up to.
Spock is an interesting fictional character but reality dictates that anyone who tries to actually bottle up their emotions is in for a 1 ton weight on their back later in life.
If you really twisted my arm and I HAD to choose anyone it would be Richard Dean Anderson's Jack O'Neill from Stargate SG1. I appreciate someone who can have a sense of humor even in the most dire of situations.
um, no. Never watched star trek. That it is now played on TNN doesn't motivate me to pick up the habit now.
i was just a little kid when it was on tv, the first time during the late 60s, and i thought he was just this quiet guy with no emotions...i preferred kirk since he was more animated
knowing what i know now, i prefer spock and think he would have made a better skipper for the enterprise...kirk's libido almost did him in a few times
and haven't you ever wondered if kirk could have picked up some sort of kissing disease, or worse, with all those alien chicks he hit on? and being aliens, how would he know if they were even female?
i liked the later star trek movie, can't recall which one though, where he kisses this beautiful alien, but she is really only disguised as a beautiful woman but is really a ghastly being
Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country, my fav of the classic trek movies. The best part is when she shape shifts into Kirk...
Kirk: I can't believe I kissed you!
Alien Kirk: Must have been your life long ambition!
HA, what a jab at Kirks ego.
Anyway personally I like Jack O'Neal as well, but in terms of Trek characters I think I'm a fan of Jonathan Archer.
I'll admit it, I looked up to Spock when I was a kid. And SiliconAddict is right, bottling one's emotions is a bad idea.
Nowadays, I'm much more interested in the dynamic between Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Losing any one of them would've affected the friendship of the other two, even affected the way the ship was run.
Spock actually was captain of the Enterprise for a year during the series. Kirk got lost and amnesia on an alien planet, and Spock took over command. They obviously didn't go into that part at all, but I bet there could be some interesting stories within that year.
Johnathan Archer!? Worst captain since Janeway! At least Janeway had the excuse of being poorly written and developed. Archer is plain old mean. I see in his crusade for justice the same kind of wild-eyed "at any cost" zealousness as in our current president. Archer's willing to toss inconvienient principles if they get in the way. I don't think that's what Roddenberry was trying to say when he thought up Star Trek. If you want a great captain, look up Dillon Hunt on the Andromeda.
I was called Spock a few times but I never looked up to him, despite the difference in height.
Windows users need much more help with their computers than Mac users do. Why? Because "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few!"
Sure, Spock was cool. Does anybody remember the episode "Spock's Brain" where Bones had to reconnect Spock's brain after it was stolen, and he had to connect Spock's speech center first so Spock could help with the rest of the surgery. Perfectly believable! Well, entertaining at least.
There's a recent Priceline commercial where an executive is telling William Shatner that he's going to be replaced as company spokesman because they are changing their image. While Shatner is arguing, he looks up, sees Leonard Nimoy walking in, and says hi to him. Then he does a double-take because he realizes Nimoy is replacing him. A clever commercial.
Thought the character was interesting, but I thought Leonard Nimoy was more interesting just as himself. The books "I Am Not Spock" and "I Am Spock" were pretty interesting, and his poetry is actually pretty good stuff. I even accept the whole 'Ballad of Bilbo Baggins' phase. I guess that is what desperation leads to.. desperate to do anything to break from a mold. To be typecast must be hard, but to be typecast as non-human.. that has to take a toll on any normal person's psyche.
At the Mugar OMNI theater (IMAX) at the Boston Museum of Science, they test the sound at the beginning of every movie with a recording of Leonard Nimoy. "Because he grew up just a few miles from here". Gotta love talking in the third person!
Counterfit will now go wash his grandmother's car
Yeah, well, uh...Spock had his dark side.
(Please don't hurt me, I'm only the messenger.)
'ahh but bird of a feather'
'I'm not familar with that story, what does it deal with?'
'Uhh, flocking... and togetherness'
Spock is an intresting one... but its impossible for anyone to live their life out like that...
Wait a minute...
No I don't want to be sterotypical... but all of my asian friends are like that... -the logic stuff... hmmm.
Yeah, definitely. Existence is definitely an important criterion of any role model or mentor.
Actually I looked up to Scotty. He is the reason why I have such curiousity, tearing apart computers, radios, VCRs, and what not to learn how the work, and to see if I can improve on the design.
My Star Trek Icons... (While Growing up [1983-2001]
Hey... Everyone needs someone who embodies their own values and ideals. Weither or not they are real does not matter, it is their message. Of course this does explain my Enigmatic Nature.
some people would argue that Jesus or Buddha never existed, yet even if they didn't and you don't believe in their divinity they can still be great role models
plus there have been plenty of literary role models. Joe from Little Women, Jean ValJean from Les Mis,etc. etc. etc.
The difference is that there is a possibility that both of those people existed at some point. Its not as if Spock ever really existed and fictional characters typically have traits that, while admirable, are so lofty and so perfect that striving for them is striving for the unobtainable. Its not as if we ever saw Spock trip on the upper stair of the bridge. Or had a hair out of place, or had a bad day where he stormed onto the bridge grumbling about something, Kirk comes over and they discuss the pro cons of Viagra because Spock couldn't get it up for his mate the one time in the 4 years they can get it on. Using a fictional character as your basis for admiration is about the same as these young girls that look to beauty magazines for their inspiration which for the average person is unattainable and a source of much stress and self loathing. I'm most likely overstating the examples but the are legit examples.
At least with a person like Robert Redford or anyone REAL you know they make mistakes. They are human and that at the end of the day they f*** up just like anyone else and move on with their life.
Well, even though Buddha isn't actually divine, he's still a great role model. (C'mon paul, back me up on this)
I don't think a role model has to be a real person. If you expect to be 100% perfect or 100% successful like a character in a book, movie, or even in folklore, that's not a realistic expectation, but it's still fine to set goals based on the ideals they represent to you. For example, when I'm solving a programming problem, I want to have the deductive powers of Sherlock Holmes, so he's one of my role models.