Stuffit

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  1. andypress macrumors regular

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    Every time I try to expand a file, stuffit finishes in seconds, but never actually expands the file. This happens with every single file. If anyone has any suggestions or newer version of stuffit that will work on os 7.6.1, other than version 4.06, please send me the link. Thank you.
     
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    Are you having trouble with a particular file or with all .sit files? If so, the file may be either damaged or in a newer StuffIt format than your version of StuffIt understands.

    To see if you have a particular file that's broken, you could download any old StuffIt file and try expanding it. For example, I picked a file at random to test with: On this web page, I clicked the first "1.0g" link to download some kind of Yamaha SCSI driver that is a StuffIt file. I couldn't expand it with StuffIt Expander 4.5, but I could with StuffIt Expander 5.5.

    I've also seen cases where you can't expand a file by double-clicking on it, even if it has the .sit extension, but you can expand it by opening StuffIt Expander (or StuffIt Deluxe if you have the whole package) and then opening the file from within StuffIt.
     
  4. andypress thread starter macrumors regular

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    I ended up downloading version 5.5, except when I try to expand the files, Stuffit always "unexpectedly quits" with the error being type 11. Is there any easier way than going through this hassle?
     
  5. Doctor Q Administrator

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    Nope, you pretty much depend on having a way to unstuff files, and Aladdin Systems has not always used the same format, so you need the newest StuffIt Expander to handle files that were stuffed with the newest StuffIt.

    When they changed the file format after version 4.5, I wrote to them to ask how I could create .sit files in the older StuffIt format, to distribute to teachers at our school who didn't yet have the latest StuffIt Exander. They replied that StuffIt Deluxe (their fanciest package, which I had purchased) could no longer create files in the older format and that I would have to get the "lite" (shareware) version of StuffIt (and pay for it, despite already having bought the deluxe version) in order to be able to create files in the older format. So it's no surprise that people have to upgrade StuffIt Expander to keep up with Aladdin's changes, so that .sit files from web sites won't have a newer format than they can expand. Yes, it is annoying when you have an older system.

    If you are still having trouble, even with version 5.5, you could try version 6.0.1, which is available at versiontracker. Newer versions are also available, but they won't run under your Mac OS 7.6.1.
     
  6. andypress thread starter macrumors regular

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    I've tried downloading a newer version. The problem is that they're all encoded in the stuffit fomat, which makes this a big problem. I have the 6.x file on my machine, but i cant expand it.
     
  7. andypress thread starter macrumors regular

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    Version 6.0.1 requires os 8.1 or greater, so there has to be another way.
     
  8. Doctor Q Administrator

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    Are you sure? Versiontracker says that version 6.0.1 requires only System 7.1.1 or higher.

    If you don't have any working version of StuffIt and therefore have the Catch 22 of not being able to download and unstuff a new version, then read this Aladdin page.
     
  9. andypress thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes because when I downloaded, the setup could not find CarbonLib, which is in OS 8 and higher.
     
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    I still can't tell which of these cases applies:

    (a) Your StuffIt Expander 4.06 is broken.

    (b) Your .sit files are broken.

    (c) Your .sit files are in a newer StuffIt format than StuffIt Expander 4.06 can handle.

    Have you considered buying a copy of Mac OS 8.1 or later for at least one of your Macs?
     
  11. andypress thread starter macrumors regular

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    Ok here's the problems:
    Version 4.01 will not expand most files
    Version 5.5 doesnt work at all, for any stuffit files
    Cant find os 8.1 to buy, not really willing to spend money on os 8.5, becuase I got this mac for free.
     
  12. pretentious macrumors regular

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    This page might help:
    http://www.jagshouse.com/stuffit.html

    Andy you have an older Mac so some sites are there to help.

    http://www.lowendmac.com
    LEM is my Bible to using older Macs, pretty much everything about useing older Macs have been discused there, and gives you some very good info on what might work best on a older setup.

    http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html
    System 6 Heaven, yes people still use System 6, and yes you are using OS 7.6, but all the software there works like a champ on older setups.

    http://www.jagshouse.com/
    Another great old Mac resource
     
  13. Doctor Q Administrator

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    So...

    * StuffIt Expander 4.01 must be OK because it works on some files. This probably means that your .sit files are simply in a newer format. So you need a newer StuffIt Expander.

    * StuffIt Expander 5.5 must be broken because it won't run on the files that StuffIt Expander can open (right?). If we could find you a better copy of the program (either unstuffed or in StuffIt 4 format), you might be OK.

    * StuffIt Exander 6.0.1 won't run under Mac OS 7.6.1.

    Darn!

    I have seen Mac OS 8 installation CDs for sale on eBay for a few dollars, but I don't know if those copies are legal. Sometimes people sell an old Mac, operating system and all, so cheap that you can buy it just for the O.S.

    Would any other MacRumors member care to throw in another suggestion or volunteer to send andypress an unstuffed StuffIt Expander that he can use?
     
  14. pretentious macrumors regular

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    Done... in the Jagshouse link above :scroll down: is Stuffit 5.2.7 stuffed in 3.6 If this doesn't meet your needs than I think we might be SOL.
    You could get a legit copy at Hardcore Mac for $49.99, but I think we would want to spend as little as possible on such an old Mac.

    BTW andypress... may I ask what in particular are you are trying to unstuff? If push comes to shove and its vital, we might be able to unstuffit then send it back in a stuffed version you might be able to use.
     
  15. andypress thread starter macrumors regular

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    I downloaded version 5.1.2, it installed perfectly, but it keeps giving me the same errors "type 11, and type 3". I wish that macs
    would just have .exe files like pc's, it would be so much easier. Has anyone ever had these errors before? I'm wondering if I should reinstall the operating system.
     
  16. Doctor Q Administrator

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    The .sit equivalent for PCs is the .zip file, but the .zip format hasn't changed the way the .sit file format has, so format-incompatibility problems are less common. But if your zip utility is broken or your zip file is broken, you'll have the same problems on a PC that you would with a bad StuffIt Expander or bad .sit file on a Mac.

    I'm sorry you keep having trouble. I'm willing to keep the suggestions coming if you haven't given up and thrown the Mac out the window... yet.

    Have you installed any unusual software or done any hardware mods to the system since you installed it?

    You have a few old Macs, right? Did you try unstuffing on another one of the Macs?

    Type 3 errors occur when an illegal instruction is encountered. They can be the result of a corrupt application or a corrupt software component used by that application. Conflicts among Mac OS extensions can be a cause, so you could certainly try reinstalling Mac OS. You could also try booting without extensions (by holding down the Shift key while the system restarts) and seeing if StuffIt behaves better.

    Type 11 is officially a hardware exception, but it can also occur from corrupt software or an extension conflict.

    Another trick to try: delete all files in the Preferences folder that are named StuffIt anything or Aladdin anything and try unstuffing again.
     

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