Subdivision Bans Wreath With Peace Sign

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  1. yg17 macrumors G5

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    http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_...n/20061126205309990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


    I don't know what's worse, the article, or some of the comments on the discussion page of that article:

     
  2. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    from the article:
    not heard that one before. where do they get these people?
     
  3. Thanatoast macrumors 6502a

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    I think that third one is meant to be satirical. The first two I'm not sure.

    And HOA's should be banned and their leadership tarred and feathered on principle.
     
  4. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    what tipped it off? the correct spelling of Sheehan? :)

    the poll results show 90% of respondents siding with the homeowner.
     
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    the 'moronity level' in the country has reached levels that are truly disturbing.

    and i can't begin to fathom how anyone ccould possibly defend this guy.
     
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    Speaks volume.
     
  7. SMM macrumors 65816

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    One word: Fear. :eek:

    People live in fear of what they do not understand. For many of them, that encompasses just about anything and everyone. The art of exploiting these kind of people, goes back so far, I doubt if anyone really knows its' origins. Maybe it was used to win the election of the alpha caveman?

    The right has done a masterful job of portraying all things liberal as the cause of the entire planet's woes. Liberals are usually unprepared to debate their position. Most are used to a thoughtful, logical and intelligent methodology for arriving at their conclusion. This has no effect on the ignorant, fearful and emotional position of the side opposite.
     
  8. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    this is just craziness. honestly. a nearly universal symbol of peace causing this much of an issue is not needed. and i say nearly because i personally would think that it is universal but some people don't seem to realize what it is.
     
  9. Lyle macrumors 68000

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    I just hope noone sends Mr. Kearns a "Peace on Earth" Christmas card. And heaven help him if he finds out that Jesus is sometimes referred to as the "Prince of Peace".
     
  10. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    I liked the last bit,

    It sounds like Kearns is probably the source of the problem. Glad to know that those 5 who got fired were not fanatics like him.

    What's next, slaughtering all doves, the universal symbol of peace?
     
  11. Kalns macrumors regular

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    I didn't read the article, but in all fairness the peace sign despite once having meant simply "peace" is now considered by many to be a symbol of radical political ideaology which goes beyond it's original meaning.
     
  12. srobert macrumors 68020

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    Hmm… I somehow thought that the peace sign was starting to get shamefully used in corporate advertising: New Gap Ad (You Tube) but I wasn't aware it was now a "radial political" symbol. Anybody else?
     
  13. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    the original meaning was about nuclear disarmament.
     
  14. Kalns macrumors regular

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    That's interesting. I always figured it developed out of the V for "victory" from WWII.
     
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    Thanks interesting read. Didn't know that ^_^

    I'm glad to learn that the Gap are now braodcasting their stand against nuclear weaponry. :D
     
  16. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Really, who are the "many"? I can imagine a lot of symbols that would be controversial, but the peace symbol, so innocuously displayed is hardly one of them.

    Isn't peace one of the integral messages of the season? Whether from Luke, or Dickens peace is a central theme. It always has been and always should be.
     
  17. Kalns macrumors regular

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    I agree, peace is a very important thing. I'm just saying that symbols when used continuously by particular groups tend to change societal attitudes about that particular symbols meaning.
     
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    By who? It still just means 'peace' where I live. Or, is 'peace' such a radical political idea? Can you imagine the uproar if she were to have posted "Peace on earth, goodwill to men."
     
  19. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    If she drove a Ford Fusion, it might be time to add the Viagra sponsorship decals to the vehicle -- but I'd settle for a nice Preparation-H style decal myself.
     
  20. aquajet macrumors 68020

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    The article did state that only three or four people complained. So maybe it's not as high as you think. I hope, at least. God I hope so.
     
  21. Kalns macrumors regular

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    You're misundestanding me. Peace in an of itself is a good thing, but given it's use in political rallies and such, the peace SIGN has taken on a somewhat negative connotation amongst certain conservatives. To them it's a symbol of radical liberalism and no longer bears any relevance to the original meaning of peace.
     
  22. yg17 thread starter macrumors G5

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    And even if it is a symbol of radical liberalism (which I disagree with, but hypothetically...), why should she not be allowed to display it? If the neighbors can display thing such as crosses (which some say has become a symbol of radical conservatism) then she has every right to display a peace sign.
     
  23. Kalns macrumors regular

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    I'm not arguing that she shoudln't be able to. In fact given the nature of the wreath, although I doubt any particular political agenda was intended with it, you could argue that the removal is a slap to people of the right and the left. Given that, I think it should stay. But I also don't think it's fair to malign any groups aside from the home owner's association.
     
  24. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    There is nothing offensive about that wreath, it just goes to show you how screwed up the so called " Christian" Neo cons have become. Clueless to what Christ preached,represented and stood for. Mindless Neocons who are for war as long as someone else is fighting it for them. This pisses me off. Time for the lawyers to defend her first amendments rights. PEACE!

    Makes me want to hang one on the house,tree,front yard,mailbox,etc.
     
  25. Kalns macrumors regular

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    I'm a Christian neo Con. I don't think I'm as screwed up as you'd like me to believe I am. :p
     

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